NEA non-restricted black rifle coming?
- Thread starter evolture
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very true if you cant do that to a 50yr old design then you should give up and go be a plumber or somthing.
But more corectly china did not have to Reverse engineering the M16. the U.S. govement gave china the tec data and equipment to make m16,s to supply what we know know is the Taliban so that could fight the commies.
Those first gen CQ311 ar15s we has come in were left over from that war.
Im sure glad we helped supply and train the taliban.... Worked out well for us er.
Well we did do that with Iran,Iraq,Mexico, S America ect ect...
Are you sure about that? I don't see how that's remotely possible since it's almost a given that the Americans would have supplied weapons that were Com Bloc in origin as to mask their covert involvement as much as possible to the Soviets.
I don't see how that situation would have been a benefit to the Chinese by agitating the USSR by manufacturing and supplying the rifles on behalf of the Americans.
If you're correct, that's an interesting but oh history that I wasn't aware of.
Some history I was reading mentioned the extreme tensions along the China-USSR border. Several times the Russians were far more worried about attack from their "Red brethern" than the USA.
Imagine two paranoid socialist countries sharing a large border, definitely not fun.
If the USA was going to "give" China something I am sure they had no qualms accepting, especially since they were still pissed at the USSR from a 1969 border incident.
The Chinese did not want the Russians in the middle east any more than we did.
I believe they were selling the guns to the Afghans and making decent money off the whole thing.
I believe they were selling the guns to the Afghans and making decent money off the whole thing.
The Afghans weren't buying them. They had no money. They were given the weapons. If it weren't for the insurgency the Americans wouldn't have involved themselves at all. They didn't want a direct confrontation with the Soviets over it.
Generally speaking, the Pakis ran the show on the ground and the Americans funded it. Most of the weapons were procured and distributed to the insurgency by the Pakistanis.
Anyways, this is getting waaay off topic.
Yes enough about nasty people in unpleasant places.
Now back to unrestricted black rifles at a budget price, .
Damnit, I have more questions.
#1 Why would they want China to tool up new machining to produce m16s when they already had warehouses of SKS rifles & their ak47 rifle versions, that could be more quickly sent to the Afghans. I also imagine china had ammo for those rifles.
#2 Was the ammo Chinese or American? 556
#3 Was there political/psychological reasoning behind wanting the Afghans to have American designed weapons? A russian soldier finding a m16 in the mountains of Afghanistan would go 'WTF?'
#4 Were the rifles marked as Chinese?
#1 Why would they want China to tool up new machining to produce m16s when they already had warehouses of SKS rifles & their ak47 rifle versions, that could be more quickly sent to the Afghans. I also imagine china had ammo for those rifles.
#2 Was the ammo Chinese or American? 556
#3 Was there political/psychological reasoning behind wanting the Afghans to have American designed weapons? A russian soldier finding a m16 in the mountains of Afghanistan would go 'WTF?'
#4 Were the rifles marked as Chinese?
P0WERWAGON
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I've trying to steer this thread back on it's original course...
Fingers crossed hoping for an unrestricted AR-10... the original AR-10 not the one that is based on the AR-15. I think it would be great if it took AR accessories. What an awesome black/hunting rifle that would be.
Fingers crossed hoping for an unrestricted AR-10... the original AR-10 not the one that is based on the AR-15. I think it would be great if it took AR accessories. What an awesome black/hunting rifle that would be.
As a matter of fact they did have money...among other sources, they received financial aid from the US and the Saudis.
And not only did the Chinese sell them guns, IIRC they sold them tanks and rockets as well, although it has been a while since I thought about this. Their rockets may have come from someone else. The Americans famously gave them Stinger missiles.
But I will admit it is improbable that the guns the Afghans bought from the Chinese were built by NEA, and non-restricted.
North Eastern Arms
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They were already looking. We told them to pound salt.
Rifles shipping globally with no US involvement at all gets a lot of people coming out of the woodwork as you can imagine.
LOL thats great. Tagged for interest. I am ready to put my name on the list for a non res black rifle.
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yes 100% sure. just liek the fact that we the brits trained the Iraq national guard on how to interagate people, fly plans and ect.
if you get a chance to look up info fro mthese guys it will tell you alot of info about how and who sold weapons and tec to the Afgans
http://www.janes.com/products/janes/index.aspx
Another good read is how the brits sold War ships to argentina full well knowing that they will invade the falkland island in the next 5yrs.
But its ok it with Magies son that did it...
anyway back to non res black guns in the land of the free.....
At the risk of insultingly being called a fanboy... NEA does have engineers on staff with CAD/CAM and mechanical design experience.
I have no idea if the specific engineers working there have the talent to scratch-design a new BCG, FCG and receiver, but hopefully once their existing sales model tops out they give it a whirl. I like "made in Canada" engineering effort
