need cheap 1911 opinions
- Thread starter Gillis2
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I also vote for the norinco/dominion arms..look at canada ammo always have sales
also you looking for cheap remember norinco/dominion arms less then $400 even lower...problem is feeding the darn things....
I've never had a problem with my two 1911's....
Glenn.
also you looking for cheap remember norinco/dominion arms less then $400 even lower...problem is feeding the darn things....
I've never had a problem with my two 1911's....
Glenn.
- Location
- Aaaaaadmontin AB
Well boys, let me tell ya what an old fart thinks. I'm a gun club duffer and I don't know everything...but if yer gonna do something stupid...well, I've been there, done that, and bought the tee shirt!
So it goes with cheaping out. Any gun - even the El Cheapos - can be made to shoot well. The best 1911 I ever saw was my own - a used Auto Ordnance gun with an alloy frame. Some rich kid bought it and pimped it into a race IPSC gun...and then took all the farkles off and put it up on consignment. The trigger broke like glass even though it looked like hell. It shot circles around the then-new Colt Delta Elites. It ate National Match Gold Cups for breakfast. I'm not kidding - my $425.00 bargain basement dumpster gun was taking the pros and their guns to school. They would shoot theirs, and then shoot mine...and try and buy it off me. Hey - I only look stupid!
The problem comes in that accurate guns get shot. A lot. Every time I went out I got maybe a clip or two - and then my gun was off down the firing line, and my ammo was being gobbled up by people I hardly knew! I dunno how many pounds of lead and W231 went down that gun's gullet...I lost count. I named the gun 'General Direction' and people I had never met before would come up to me and ask to meet him. They usually ended up shooting it as well. One day The General packed it in. A barrel bushing cracked and the frame was beat to chit and the Parkerizing had all come off...and I came as close to tears as a man can come. In a fit of grief I had a phony gunsmith at Custom Guns in Aaaadmontin try and resurrect it ... and paid through the nose to no avail. The gun is a paperweight now, I suppose I should scrap it but it is a touch stone from days and times and people long gone and it makes me feel good to keep it. Those alloy frames and cheap guns don't stand up. If you can get 30 000 rounds out of them you're doing good. 30 000 rounds isn't much when your neighbour, your kids and grandkids and all their friends and family are shooting it too!
So here's the economics: El Cheapo 1911? Call it - what? $450.00? At least that much again for gunsmithing and tuning and tweaking (but probably more) - so you're at $900.00 now? In 5 or 6 years you are left with a beat up piece of crap and you can do the same thing again...or spend $1800.00 up front, get a top of the line steel framed gun that will hold up for decades - and give it to your son to shoot when you turn into an old stubfart like me!
The lesson here, boys, is that the cheapest product is not always the least expensive one. Besides, everyone (and this means YOU) - deserves a GOOD 1911. Bite the bullet, spend the money and if the wife starts narking at you - tell her I said it's alright. That should shut her up...
So it goes with cheaping out. Any gun - even the El Cheapos - can be made to shoot well. The best 1911 I ever saw was my own - a used Auto Ordnance gun with an alloy frame. Some rich kid bought it and pimped it into a race IPSC gun...and then took all the farkles off and put it up on consignment. The trigger broke like glass even though it looked like hell. It shot circles around the then-new Colt Delta Elites. It ate National Match Gold Cups for breakfast. I'm not kidding - my $425.00 bargain basement dumpster gun was taking the pros and their guns to school. They would shoot theirs, and then shoot mine...and try and buy it off me. Hey - I only look stupid!
The problem comes in that accurate guns get shot. A lot. Every time I went out I got maybe a clip or two - and then my gun was off down the firing line, and my ammo was being gobbled up by people I hardly knew! I dunno how many pounds of lead and W231 went down that gun's gullet...I lost count. I named the gun 'General Direction' and people I had never met before would come up to me and ask to meet him. They usually ended up shooting it as well. One day The General packed it in. A barrel bushing cracked and the frame was beat to chit and the Parkerizing had all come off...and I came as close to tears as a man can come. In a fit of grief I had a phony gunsmith at Custom Guns in Aaaadmontin try and resurrect it ... and paid through the nose to no avail. The gun is a paperweight now, I suppose I should scrap it but it is a touch stone from days and times and people long gone and it makes me feel good to keep it. Those alloy frames and cheap guns don't stand up. If you can get 30 000 rounds out of them you're doing good. 30 000 rounds isn't much when your neighbour, your kids and grandkids and all their friends and family are shooting it too!
So here's the economics: El Cheapo 1911? Call it - what? $450.00? At least that much again for gunsmithing and tuning and tweaking (but probably more) - so you're at $900.00 now? In 5 or 6 years you are left with a beat up piece of crap and you can do the same thing again...or spend $1800.00 up front, get a top of the line steel framed gun that will hold up for decades - and give it to your son to shoot when you turn into an old stubfart like me!
The lesson here, boys, is that the cheapest product is not always the least expensive one. Besides, everyone (and this means YOU) - deserves a GOOD 1911. Bite the bullet, spend the money and if the wife starts narking at you - tell her I said it's alright. That should shut her up...
I feel dirty throwing a Norc 1911 top end on my SA National Match/STI Combo. But beats having it sit un usable.
The frame on your gun is going to take a serious beating with a Norc slide on there. The steel on the norc will rend your frame if you shoot it a lot, especially if it's not a gunsmith fit.
