Need help Identifying my old BP

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Well Ive been trying to figure out what this BP rifle really is. I got this as a gift from my dad when I was a kid. He bought it in Yellowknife at a local gun store. I was told it was a 1820 musket. I did some recent research & was told it was a converted flintlock witch makes me more curious. I was thinking of selling it to someone who would like it more then me, not really a BP guy & I would love to know more about it before I sell it if I decide to.
So here are some pics, There is a #252 on all major parts I assume a serial # of sorts. There is a 79 stamped under the barrel, also a mark at the end os the barrel side kinda looks like a NIYE but I'm not sure.
Yes its missing the ramrod I never had it. So If someone out there has some knowledge on it I would appreciate any help identifying it.

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Looks like somebody's version of a Sea Service musket.

Front Band is VERY like the French 1763 except that theirs were iron.

Brass bands look very Trade to me.

Lock looks more English than anything else, although the Austrians also used similar locks. The DOG is very distinctive and should serve to identify it positively; dogs generally were not fitted after about 1660, which is about a century before this one was made. The flat lock makes it look rather 1830-ish or later but it certainly does look like a converted flinter.

Proof Marks would help a LOT.

I'm going to stop guessing now and sit back and watch. Mooncoon or one of the guys who REALLY knows this period will be on here shortly after I shut up!

Good luck in your quest.

NICE piece!
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The dog catch was retained on Swedish and Norwegian arms well into the 19th century.
Try norskevaapen.no and click on M1834/41 for similar arms.
 
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Not Enough Toys said:
Thanks green!!!!! That info led me to this http://norskevaapen.no/?p=563 the picture at the bottom of the page looks pretty much identical to mine.
I emailed the guy with a pic & let's see where that take's me :popCorn:
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I think I would have to agree with the above choice. The dog on the lock is very distinctive, particularly for a percussion gun

cheers mooncoon
 
Heres the fast reply I got.

Hi,

This is no Kongsberg musket, but the percussion version of the Swedish M1815/45. Whilst a Norwegian percussion version in this condition easily would have been worth USD 2-3000, it would be rather a challenge even getting USD 500 for this one. Sorry, but there just are too many of them around. Check the middle band on this compared to the ones on my site.
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From the pictures I could see this may have been a Swedish gun but I wanted to be sure so now I know & I'm very happy to finally find out the history. So looks like Its worth on a good day $500 US Im happy with that, maybe good for a interesting trade:rockOn:

I cant thank you all enough for the help :D
 
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