Need Help to identify and estimate 4 guns

The shotguns-
The hammer gun is most likely one of the untold thousands of guns made in Belgium for the export market. Might be a shooter, certainly a wall hanger. It is nothing special. Maybe $100.
The H&A is a better gun. Needs to be cleaned, and some minor repair. The crack in the stock needs to be stabilized. If the action is tight, and the bores good, it is likely a shooter. $150 - $200.
 
I agree with the esoteric conversation about Winchesters and relative value. The fellow who started Sherwood Hockey Sticks collected Winchester lever actions and 40 years ago had the money to get started. He gave himself a modest goal - one of each model, cartridge, barrel length and configuration, etc. Apparently he had some of the strangest variations you can imagine, but they had fantastic valuations simply because of their rarity or desirability. There is no knowing what a true collector will want or not want, without a detailed inspection or reporting. But, is someone only sees it as 'an old thutty-thutty' to traipse through the deer woods with, there are more than enough other Model 94s out there for him.
 
"The fellow who started Sherwood Hockey Sticks collected Winchester lever actions and 40 years ago had the money to get started. He gave himself a modest goal - one of each model, cartridge, barrel length and configuration, etc."

Leo Drolet was a personal friend of my Father and at the end he was trying to collect guns of each model with consecutive serial numbers. When he died the collection was sold off to a big gun dealer in Texas, except for the Commemorative models which were sold at Auction locally. The Texas dealer did not want the Commemorative ones.
 
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Hi!

Finally my friend is ready to sell the guns. Yesterday I have take a lot of better and cleaner pics of them. But when during the photoshot I have take a Q-Tip and some rubish alcool to clean a little bit internal part looking rusty and I discover it wasn't rust at all. It was just rust or brown dust mixed with grease. I also test to gently remove the some external rust on a small portion of the guns and rapidly the the rust disapear. When I have handle both rifle they look solid and usable after a small clean of the bore. They are really nice rifles.

So it clear for me now than the condition (especially for the winchester) are better than I expected. Do you have any cleaning tip and recomandation? Things to avoid? Product to use???

Thank you for your Help!!!
 
Mike Webb said:
If you are talking old 1894 Winchesters the .38/55 is not an "oddball". It is THE most desired chambering of the 1894 by collectors everywhere and that is a fact. No rhyme or reason to it, just like the .32 WS(.32 SPECIAL) is the least desired by collectors even though production numbers were lower than the .30WCF.
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This.

Here in yUK a fellow shooter paid just over $4000 for a nice Winchester in this calibre a couple of years back. He also shoots it with gentle loads.

tac
 
Canadian_Zuk said:
Use oil soaked 0000 steel wool, rub very gently and keep it wet with oil. wipe it clean often with a clean rag and repeat until all loose rust/dirt is removed. Again, go gentle with the rubbing.
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Bronze wool is heaps better and is actually what is used by museum and collection restorers/conservators. The reason is that in the even that the bronze particles get into the grain of the woodwork they do not eventually produce unsightly black fleck marks that are impossible to remove.

tac
 
tacfoley said:
Bronze wool is heaps better and is actually what is used by museum and collection restorers/conservators. The reason is that in the even that the bronze particles get into the grain of the woodwork they do not eventually produce unsightly black fleck marks that are impossible to remove.

tac
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Bronze Wool Thank you for the precision!!!
 
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