RHall said:
bobpel said:
Bullwinkle said:
WRONG !!RePete said:
RePete said:
I don't know about the model 686's barrels Looking the same, as I do Not Own a Model 686 to Look at, but if you are speaking of the Model 586 Barrels being the same in a standard Model compared to the Target Champion Model You are WRONG again saying it was the exact same style Barrel as other model 586's. Truth of the matter is, The Optional Target Champion Model I have, and which is shown has a Much Higher Rib on top of the barrel compared to a standard model 586, to allow enogh depth for this special target adjustable front sight to set flush on the ramp of which I also have an Early 1980's 4" Model in Nickel shown. If your friend had his original box it would show on the Product Code SKU on the box end Flap, to be different than the standard model 586's back then. It was offered through a dash Three series up around 1993 or so, then Dropped and Not offered again on the Model 586 Well, I have the one shown and Bought mine new, and clearly remember the Optional sight being offered as an add on accessory Option to the standard model 586 and it Tacked on another $65.00 above the standard model 586 Retail Price. The sight was an Option and it was an Upgrade Option for READ THIS CLOSE, since you Obviously didn't in your last response, Intended for "I.P.C" Shooter's, Not P.P.C. Shooters. This sight set up was NOT offered, nor never was ever for P.P.C. Shooters as I said, They had a P.P.C. Shooters Model in the "686" stainless Version and it WAS A Custom, Shop offering back in the Mid 1990's, and Yes, This Model was Inteneded for P.P.C. Style shoots, Not I.P.C. . The Performance Center opened it's doors in the spring of 1990 Not 1989. All custom Built guns Prior to this were done off the Companies standard assembly lines and based on customer requests. Back in 1965 Dayton Outdoor Sports a Large Police supply S&W Stocking Dealer in Dayton, Ohio Placed such an order for a special Built Model 14 revolver. This revolver was Known as the "Dayton Revolver". S&W reserved a special 4 Block serial range for this revolver that started Production in 1965 and continued until 1968 which by that Time filled the complete order of 2038 special built Dayton Revolvers. Here is one of those Models, which I have had for a Couple of Years in original form that shipped in June of 1966. They differed from the standard Model 14 Target masterpiece models as they had a Baughman quick draw front sight, a Bull style Heavy barrel, and 4" Barrel lengths Normally only seen on the Model 15 Combat Masterpieces. They were Offered in Nickel or Blued and fewer were made in Nickel than Blued. You could have gotten an assortment of available Triggers and Hammers, Mine are the narrow Target versions and Grips also could be had either in the service diamond style or the Larger Diamond Targets like shown. I have had this revolver Lettered and it came back as an Original Dayton Revolver Built Many Years before S&W even though about Having a Performance center. I do shoot this revolver occasionally in IPC Events alonf with my target Champion model 586 shown above. Regards, Hammerdown
Hammerdown said:Hello
I see Your Friend had the revolver, so that makes you an Expert on this gun ?
First of, I NEVER said I was an expert, just a certified S&W factory armourer for pistol and revolver. What are your qualifications?
Secondly I said 686 and not 586, as you keep refering to.
I was going to buy a 686 w/adjustable front sight until my friend stated the sights were too fine for shooting fast.
Check the year I said he bought his. You're NOT reading my post.
I did read close and the version I'm talking about was for PPC.
As for the last part of your post, it's totally irrelivant to the topic at hand.
RePete said:
HammerdownHammerdown said:RePete said:Hello
Anybody can attend the Smith & Wesson Armorer School, that is a Public course offered to all. {SEE THE LINK} What have you got in revolver's, So far all I see is what your friend had, and what you were GOING to Buy, But eveidently didn't ? /B] Wind is cheap it Take $$$$ To build a collection. I have been collecting over 25 Years and currently have more than I care to count any more, and have done action jobs on most of them, without going to Armourer School. I am a certified NRA Range safety officer, Belong to The NRA and have been in the Smith & Wesson Collectors association for a while, and this is where I base my information from, a factual Internet forum for S&WCA Members only. Mr Roy Jinks is the master at answering any questions I may have, and second Opinions are not worth Face Value to me over his. He is the one I asked about these model 586 Target Champions Long before this thread came out or transpired, and he was the One that told me all I need to know abut S&Ws, or answers accuratly and Precise any questions I may have about S&W's. The revolver shown is an example of what one could get Long before the Performance shop even hit the scene, and is a rare specimin, and I though maybe Other's may enjoy seeing a rare revolver, I can Guarantee you are not the reason I showed this. As I said, Where are your collectible revolvers ? By the amount of Post count you have here it appears you have more wind than hardeware. I am done with this thread, and it is sad, One can't show examples without being Badgered with Back wash.., and I waill say it again..Let's see yours ?
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...goryDisplay?catalogId=12601&storeId=10001&cat
The link has a general error.
I attended the LEO courses that aren't available to civvies.
My revolvers (all L-Frames) with a 625 in 45 ACP that's not in the picture. And that's only the revolvers, there are a few others.
What was I going to buy but didn't? A 686 w/adjustable front sight.
Certified factory police armourer for Beretta, S&W (pistol and revolver), SIG, Rem 870. Owner of my own Police Armourer Service.
Member of NROI, NRA, NFA, CSSA,IPSC, IDPA, PPC instructor, IDPA instuctor, senior RSO for a Military Base gun club.
I don't own collectables because I shyoot everyone on my guns. I don't have a problem with people collecting. Each to his own.
Now get your head out of your A$$.
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