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My good buddy is dealing with the passing of his grandfather,

during the clean out of his estate he came across a few pistols wrapped up and hidden away for what appears to be multiple decades.

he sent me a text and asked me if I knew anything about them and I said I would try and help out

and I apologize for no pictures at the moment he's still back in the old day's of a flip phone and pics aren't even worth trying to take lol

the first one is a colt

on the side of the barrel it is marked

Colt. D.A .38

Top of barrel has this

Colt's pt.f a mfg co
Hartford ct usa
pat aug 5 84 nov 6 88 mar 5 95


as for serials or stampings, it has on the frame when you open the cylinder and on the release button 185


Serial on the base of the grip is above 276***


I am not up to par on my antique status stuff hoping one of the pro's could fill me in,

I did a quick google and saw on back in 2016 sold in Vancouver for 2600 and was marked as antique but I really am not sure if they are the same etc.


it would be awesome if by chance it is antique and not have to be handed in to the powers at be. as he would love to get it restored and back into operation


he also found a break action Iver Johnson I think he called it but it seemed in pretty poor condition and he wasn't to eager to find out about it.
 
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without photos it is virtually impossible to answer your question. With the Colt in particular, check to see if the barrel is over 105 mm. If the gun turns out to be post 1898 and is unregistered, it could be registered as long as the barrel is not under that length. Also perhaps more importantly, the executor should email Mirimichi and ask for a list of firearms registered to the deceased. Say that you want to know if there are any that you need to be looking for. That will tell you if the guns are registered. Also if prohibited and made before 1945, the guns can be transferred to a direct blood relative (son, grandson and so forth) but only if they are currently registered

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It's not going to be antique status.
It seems to be a new army and navy model in 38 lc
Restricted or prohib. depending on bbl. length.
Hard to sell in that cal. unless in collector grade.
 
OP, if your friend is the executor of the estate, he is deemed under the Firearms Act to be licensed to possess the handguns as long as he has a safe place to store them and he can either sell them to licensed individuals or get an RPAL himself and transfer them into his name.

Depending on the police officer he calls and how informed they are, all should go smoothly.

The information concerning estate firearms is on the NFA website and you don't have to be a member to access it. Likely wouldn't be a bad idea to join the NFA or one of the other orgs as well.

Don't give out any more information on this or any other site.

Do your own due diligence. It's all pretty simple stuff.

Don't let the Police or anyone else talk your friend into turning them over for disposal. If he's entitled to them as part of his inheritance, they should be his. If the firearms aren't already registered, or they've lost the registrations, they can easily be registered by the folks in Miramichi. He will likely have to provide them with good pics and of course have them verified.

What's happening with your friend isn't at all unusual.

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OP, if your friend is the executor of the estate, he is deemed under the Firearms Act to be licensed to possess the handguns as long as he has a safe place to store them and he can either sell them to licensed individuals or get an RPAL himself and transfer them into his name.

Depending on the police officer he calls and how informed they are, all should go smoothly.

The information concerning estate firearms is on the NFA website and you don't have to be a member to access it. Likely wouldn't be a bad idea to join the NFA or one of the other orgs as well.

Don't give out any more information on this or any other site.

Do your own due diligence. It's all pretty simple stuff.

Don't let the Police or anyone else talk your friend into turning them over for disposal. If he's entitled to them as part of his inheritance, they should be his. If the firearms aren't already registered, or they've lost the registrations, they can easily be registered by the folks in Miramichi. He will likely have to provide them with good pics and of course have them verified.

What's happening with your friend isn't at all unusual.

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Excellent advice Bearhunter..
 
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I spoke with him some more and asked for some pictures. This is what he gave me. He himself is a pal holder not rpal and was curious as I mentioned the possibility of it being antique status etc. The other pistol turned out to be a 3.9 inch barrel and in poor condition ie missing parts etc so he just took it to the chop saw destroyed the frame and made cylinder into a paper weight.

So the colt does have a 113mm barrel or 4.4 inch and he does have the grips and side plate as well but it is missing a couple internal bits

He has absolutely no interest in getting his rpal as he's an off the grid type of guy lives out in the bush and likes to be anonymous to the system haha. Nothing registered or on file etc.

And as far as his family knew his grandfather never had a pal or anything of the such as I stated before they were buried in deep storage for probably the better part of 40-50 years.
 
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OP, if your friend is the executor of the estate, he is deemed under the Firearms Act to be licensed to possess the handguns as long as he has a safe place to store them and he can either sell them to licensed individuals or get an RPAL himself and transfer them into his name.

Depending on the police officer he calls and how informed they are, all should go smoothly.

The information concerning estate firearms is on the NFA website and you don't have to be a member to access it. Likely wouldn't be a bad idea to join the NFA or one of the other orgs as well.

Don't give out any more information on this or any other site.

Do your own due diligence. It's all pretty simple stuff.

Don't let the Police or anyone else talk your friend into turning them over for disposal. If he's entitled to them as part of his inheritance, they should be his. If the firearms aren't already registered, or they've lost the registrations, they can easily be registered by the folks in Miramichi. He will likely have to provide them with good pics and of course have them verified.

What's happening with your friend isn't at all unusual.

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Liberals really like POOR people, they're making more of them every day

If you can't vote CPC, stay at home in protest

That is excellent advice.... sadly I read after I ALREADY added more info ugggh lol.
 
It is not unusual for unregistered handguns to turn up in estates. They can be registered, if restricted by classification. Prohibs are no go.
 
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