Thanks for the info mate.
Believe me I understand and follow the concept of paying more instead of cheap and adding stuff afterwards.
That's the main idea of my topic if there's a gun meeting all my requirements for a little bit more money I'm all for it but my priorities at this time aren't for a 3000$ gun.
I do own a Savage 10FCP-SR in 308 for longer shots (300 yards) if needed.
Of course my reference is in the USA they have a lot of different guns meeting these requirements for the price point and even bellow, still I'm surprize and all you guys seems to agree that there's no manufacturer meeting what I need.
If we were in the US you could just go buy a decent AR for under $1500 that would meet all your requirements but unfortunately our Canadian law makers are idiots and between them and the RCMP lab they think that the way a rifle looks determines how dangerous it is. An AR is no easier to convert to full auto than any other semi auto out there and since the parts needed to make an AR auto won't even fit into an AR-15's receiver it really makes absolutely no sense at all. That's another discussion though.
Our weak Canadian dollar isn't helping us either.
The guys in the US don't have many other options than that though, we can get most of the stuff they can and as long as it's available with an 18.6"+ barrel we can probably have it NR. The problem is that the other options are expensive and it's very uncommon for a semi automatic based on a modern military design to shoot close to 1 moa, the rifles are typically designed for a battlefield so sub 4 moa is just fine, it's our unrealistic expectations that make us think 1 moa is the benchmark for these rifles. Sometimes someone gets lucky and finds a load that works well with their barrel and they pull off a fluke group but more often than not I think guys are full of it. Most groups seen are some random target with holes all over with the five closest ones circled or could have been at 50 yards rather than 100. There is no way to verify. If you want proof have a look at the my rifle shoots 1 moa all day thread and see how many people actually have a fresh target with five groups of five with no flyers. It's really rare, even the guys spending $5000 for a decked out Modern Hunter or Modern Varmint with the expensive match grade barrel and trigger are not printing 1 moa all day. It's very hard to do with a bolt gun and a semi is even harder to do it with.
If you want a semi that will hit coyotes at 300yds I would save a little longer and buy a used Tavor or XCR-L for around $2000. Neither one is a consistent 2moa shooter (I don't care what one person got one time when the planets aligned) but both will be reliable and are accurate enough for what you want to do. Nothing you can do about the weight other than lift some weights and put a little muscle on those arms so you notice the weight of the rifle less.
If weight is a concern for carry then you're out of luck but if it's just for the weight shooting offhand then have a look at the Tavor, I used to own one and it was a well built rifle, being a bullpup helps make it feel lighter than it is. I sold it because it just didn't do it for me, I enjoy shooting my ACR, and AR180 more.
I just did a trade for another HK SL8, this is the third time I've owned one, the first two were capable of 1 moa with match grade ammo or with well developed handloads. I'm waiting for it to arrive (should be here today or tomorrow). They are heavy but they're definitely the most accurate semi auto we can buy off the shelf for under $3000.
