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i received mine today, unfortunately it will not work with my rifle for two reasons, i have one of those rifles with the head of the pin holding the bolt catch and mag release will not go all the way down as it interferes with the release, and two it appears as though the shaft of the release is to long as when you put a magazine in you cant even pull the bolt back because its riding so high, also wont close due to the same reason. on top of that i got another package from stormwerks and it was devoid of features it was supposed to have... not a real happy day for me....

must be our rifles are a little different.
 
Nova.. shoot me a e-mail at dave@neitdesigns.com I'd like to see some pics of this installed in your receiver and get some measurements if we can. I've talked to a couple guys in Texas that have D-tecknic receivers and they're good in there. If it's long regardless I'll get one modified for you. I'll also bring in some non-shouldered mag catch pins.
 
NeitArms said:
Nova.. shoot me a e-mail at dave@neitdesigns.com I'd like to see some pics of this installed in your receiver and get some measurements if we can. I've talked to a couple guys in Texas that have D-tecknic receivers and they're good in there. If it's long regardless I'll get one modified for you. I'll also bring in some non-shouldered mag catch pins.
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i will tomorrow, it is possible the coating could be causing the problem, ill sand a little more off and see if that changes it.

Size wise it actually looks as though there real close.
ill work on it to see if i can make it work.

would like to see one so my pin can stay the same:)

edit: i tried a lot of my mags one seems to work well with the bolt release, some let the bolt glide back but not forward (metal followers) with the mag still in, and others mainly plastic followers ones wont even let the bolt by. sanded a deal.
 
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it looks like it should work. pic together. i can get it to work if i man handle it. somethings creating enough friction i need the wiggle the paddle sometimes after a mag was in to get the bolt to slam home. im trying to find the culprit.

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im gonna cycle the action alot and see if it clears it up.

edit: if you see the stock one has a slight bend to it. im focusing on that area and sanding the coating off there.
 
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... there shouldn't be a bend to the stock one..

Taking any material off the sides can and probably will throw it out of spec. The only issues we've had with them are with the shaft itself. It can seem like the body is fitting in tight when in fact it's the coating near the base of the shaft.

If it's too much of a pain, we'll exchange it as long as it hasn't been butchered.
 
NeitArms said:
... there shouldn't be a bend to the stock one..

Taking any material off the sides can and probably will throw it out of spec. The only issues we've had with them are with the shaft itself. It can seem like the body is fitting in tight when in fact it's the coating near the base of the shaft.

If it's too much of a pain, we'll exchange it as long as it hasn't been butchered.
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maybe mine stock one is just bent thought it shouldn't be, it isn't butchered Ive just been using the little black piece that came with it, the bolt release sticks and needs alot of pressure to release it sometimes, i having taking any metal off. ill try the base of the shaft again.

EDIT: could this be the problem? the flat surface on my stock catch is about twice the area on the neit one? I cant get the bolt to release for me. other than that i cant see whats doing it, the force from the bolt/carrier holding the release prevents it from sliding down.


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Have you tried putting a little grease on the tip of the catch and oiling the shaft? I wonder also if maybe the spring isn't strong enough?
 
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Have you tried putting a little grease on the tip of the catch and oiling the shaft? I wonder also if maybe the spring isn't strong enough?
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yeah used some grease and lubed it, didn't help much, the carrier just pins the thing there and it wont move, its not indented as far in or down as the stock catch.
 
Nova-Wake said:
EDIT: could this be the problem? the flat surface on my stock catch is about twice the area on the neit one?
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It only appears to be larger because we cut a break into the top of that surface.

Any binding is probably from the plating. Sanding should solve it. Again, if not, shoot me an email and I'll exchange it.

We've had some people mention that the bolt release is really hard to move to release the bolt. It was also noted that they were playing with it and an empty mag. It's not designed to release on an empty mag.. in this instance you're trying to push down against the force of the mag spring. No mag or full mag.


As for the fitment, we dropped the ball on the shaft coating. We'll do what we can to ensure that any issues are dealt with and peoples units are up and running. If anyone has any issues e-mail me anytime.
 
Your not the only 1 that has been experincing this "Wiggle" issue Nova-Wake...
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NEA is in the process of fixing these issue's and will be developing a newer version. Got to love it when a company goes the extra mile for there consumers.
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It looks to me as though maybe the angled relief cut at the top of the pin is only properly aligned when the release is extended about 5 degrees out from the receiver wall.

Part of the problem HAS to be the bending moment you are putting on the base of the pin. The tip of that release must be what? 2.5cm from the base of the pin? That's enough bending moment force on the pin base to force the pin into an angled position in the channel, which will exacerbate any binding issues.

I'd have to play with the concept a little, but what might work better is a linkage-arm arrangement with a hinge pin that would allow the force to pull the bolt stop pin directly down without angular force. The problem is where to attach it, unless maybe by using the receiver pin?

@ Satain: Did you TIG weld your AK rail to the side of your VZ? Pics?
 
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That is the EXACT same thing with mine, exactly the issues i have couldn't be explained better.
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Nova, is yours moving this far to the side as well?

Satain removed some material from inside the u-channel, this I believed to lead to the sidewards movement. Can you shoot me a picture of the lateral movement in yours as well?
 
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Nova, is yours moving this far to the side as well?

Satain removed some material from inside the u-channel, this I believed to lead to the sidewards movement. Can you shoot me a picture of the lateral movement in yours as well?
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All I did was sand the U channel. The only place were I did not sand & instead filed was the front part to install the retaining pin.
 
NeitArms said:
Nova, is yours moving this far to the side as well?

Satain removed some material from inside the u-channel, this I believed to lead to the sidewards movement. Can you shoot me a picture of the lateral movement in yours as well?
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i can assure you it does exactly the same as his only i put the pin in through the other side and did not remove any metal, it has a great deal of play all that was removed was a tiny bit of the coating.
 
I installed mine today, I too had issues with the coating with fitting.

I pollished the shaft,to remove the coating, I also had to file the groove or U channel between the receiver and the release lever and also polished it with very fine emery cloth. It seemed to bind against the inside of the receiver frame.

I did the above process very slowly, sanding ever so slightly, then cleaning with WD 40 and compressed air from a can. So as to not introduce fine particulate into the mix, when installing it into the gun. I did this numerous times, slowly, until I got the desired fit.

I am happy to report that the bolt release functions, although at little stiff.(which I hope will work itself out), if not I will polish it a little more.

I did lubricate the spring and shaft of release with oil before installing.

I advice if you are going to file or sand, to do so in a slow process, with constant test fittings.To acquire the final fitting.

I do not have any sideways movement at all.

In conclusion,

This is a great product, Although for me, not a drop in product.

Am I happy with it ? Hell ya ...:)
 
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I, too, thought it wasn't going to work at first. But I had to file down the cylinder more and now it's working fine.
The cylinder has to be loose ENOUGH in the hole to work properly.

It's still a great product. My only concern is the longevity of the product. That bolt slams pretty darn hard into the pin.

Has anyone ever needed to replace their factory bolt pin?
 
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