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Hey,

So, I'm at the range today, practing, and get a call from a private number.

me:Hello?
(a stern, male voice): Can I speak with <name>?
me: Speaking.
This is Constable <so and so> from the <so and so> detachment of RCMP in Nova Scotia.
me: hello, how are you?
Fine. You stayed at the Hilton Halifax Airport hotel this weekend?
me: yes I did
You left behind some boxes of 9mm ammunition.... empty.
me: uhhmmm... yeah....
Explain?
me: uhhmm... I was in town for the NS ipsc provincials at the AMA range, which is just around around the corner from the hotel..
Hmm, ohh, yeah...
me: several Ontario and Quebec shooters flew in, most of us stayed at that hotel. When I finished the match, I threw away all the empty boxes of ammo I used. I made sure there was no ammo in them.
Ohhh, ok, then. Well, that's all then, thank you.
Thank You, have a nice day...


Sooo.. a bunch of empty (Empty, EMPTY!!) Winchester USA boxes prompted a call to the RCMP... Hmmm.... :puke:

If/when the nationals go back to NS and if that hotel is the match hotel, we'll need to make sure we speak to the manager ahead of time, and explain some things to him/her....

;)
 
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I can't help thinking that if this conversation would have happened here in the GTA, you would have been having it in an interrogation room, while wearing handcuffs and waiting for your lawyer to arrive.

Paranoia....
 
chuckwagon said:
Just put you ammo boxes in the range garbage.
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NO NO AND NO!!

Why should we hide???


It is attitudes like this that will lead to our demise!!

We need to be IN YOUR FACE!!!

I would be calling the Hilton right the hell back and demanding a FREE STAY!!
 
yeah what the #### is their problem to make a police complaint about a paying customer due to what you left in the garbage...empty boxes? Since when is cardboard hazardous? I would complain and demand a refund or some sort of a voucher. Dont take this ####.
 
stormbringer said:
NO NO AND NO!!

Why should we hide???


It is attitudes like this that will lead to our demise!!

We need to be IN YOUR FACE!!!

I would be calling the Hilton right the hell back and demanding a FREE STAY!!
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+2

Personally I could hardly wait to have a polite conversation with the GM of the Hilton.
 
#### like this warrants a strong letter to the manager WITH a copy to his/her head office complaining about the incident and stating that if they ever want IPSC (or NRA) business again they should apologize , provide some compensatory vouchers, etc, and instruct their staff (probably some low level management puke) not to repeat this. I would also copy the NRA. A copy to the RCMP requesting removal of the incident from the CPIC data base is probably in order as well.
 
Reality check boys.
If some major incident had come about and the staff had not inquire we would be screaming incompetent staff. I think everybody did the right thing. The staff saw something unusual and let the right people know. The right people contacted the likely owner. Good answer provided enough said. No crime no punishment.
Honestly had you left a several blood stained towels do to an athletic injury do you not think the same thing would occur.

But hey if they want to give a free stay for any embarrassment you may have suffered all the better.
 
Storm would you be currious if you walked into a room and saw a few empty casing? Same thing......

I think the guy was just doing his job, YESH....
 
The only hiccup I see is..you shouldn't have told him anything over the phone. I would have politely said..if you wish to discuss this..I'm at the range. Ya I might be a bit paranoid but when people on the phone ID themselves as a police officer I want proof.
Hell I ask for their number and call them back when they call work.
 
omen,

In this day and age, I really can't fault the hotel for looking into the situation and calling the RCMP. I am surprised that the Mounties contacted you by phone. Had I gotten a call from the hotel, I'd have passed the info to an LEO/RCMP in your area and asked that a personal contact be made.

I'm impressed that the hotel staff did make the call. It shows that somebody there is curious and on the ball. Maybe the next time I'm in Halifax, I'll stay there instead of another hotel.

Rather than take offense at this, if it had happened to me, I'd call the hotel manager and give him and his staff an "atta boy", instead of an "aw sh*t".

Of course, I'm looking at the situation from an old LEO's point of view who just happens to pay close attention to curent events.

How did you do at the match? First place, I hope.

John
 
There is a huge difference between some bloody towels or casings on the floor and some empty cartridge boxes.

There was a shoot on. Presumably someone in the hotel knew that and might have put two and two together before phoning the RCMP.

Just out of curiosity where did shooters store their guns when they weren't at the range? In the hotel room perhaps?
 
Fall Guy said:
How did the RCMP get your (cell) number?
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that was the number I gave the hotel when I checked in, so I guess they just passed that to the cops ;)

I found it amuzing more than anything else.

In Kingston I had a similar experience, the hotel cleaning stuff wasn't emptying out the trash can, haha, because they saw an empty box in there.


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RobertMcC said:
Storm would you be currious if you walked into a room and saw a few empty casing? Same thing......

I think the guy was just doing his job, YESH....
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Better hand in your gun owners card right away to avoid the rush Robert....

There are NO SIMILARITIES at all!

Now....if there HAD been a gangland shooting where 400 or so rounds had been sprayed around THEN and ONLY then would calling the cops make any sense.

Hows this for a similarity....

Hotel staff find a condom wrapper.....

Should they call the RCMP to report a RAPE!!!!!
 
yeah since when is it the hotels staffs job to act as an agent of the police? Seriously complain to Hilton directly. You will get some sort of freebie or credit if you ##### hard enough.
 
fwiw, there was a few pieces of brass and some bullets (30-06) found in our company's disposal container and the warehouse manager called the cops. The cops emptied the entire container and took allot of evidence....

LOL...
 
Welcome to the Post 911 World Eh!

As above, we are living after 911 in what one author described as the "new normal".

In disposal of ammo boxes it really is best to either rip them up at the range and/or do the same when you put them in the garbage. In effect they are a "dead giveaway" that you have firearms stored in your room or in your car.
Another alternative to just take them with you.

When I put them out in my own garbage I shred the cardboard covers. IF you watched the Air Canada/Westjet debacle over data in garbage bags you might concede that "you can learn a lot by looking at garbage".

I am so old that once upon a time I could walk up Yonge Street with a Win Model 92 uncased and walk into Hallams to trade it in on another rifle. Kinda like Holman and Hickey at the same time..about 1964 to 1968.

Oh yes, I was going hunting with my 9mm Browning HP too!

Around the same time I could walk down to Hercules Sales at 577 Yonge to look at DOZENS of No 4 Sniper rifles that were selling on sale at Hercules Sales on Yonge for $59.95.

The No. 4 Long Branch Sniper rifles ones were more..$110 UNISSUED EH!

That was 1965; this is now 2006 post 911...Believe it or Not.

We can only wonder IF anyone had noticed more about the 911 Hijackers BEFOREHAND..like why they only wanted to learn to fly the big aircraft VERSUS land them or take off..or the one karate instructor who taught one of the 911 hijackers all the martial arts skills he needed to kill the flight crew with his bare hands.

Post 911 really is a "new normal" Ladies and Gentlemen, boys and girls.

A Fifth Column is hard to spot. Maybe all you have is "dead giveaways' .

Mistakes will be made. Totally legit activities and Lawabiding Canadian Citizens will get caught up in it.

Ask anyone of the 1500 Italian Canadians who were "rounded up and held incommunicato" for six months and then released by the RCMP during WWII WITHOUT any charges being filed against any of them or was it just ONE out of the 1500 arrested.

In WWII I got to ask where my Italian Barber had disappeared to! He seemed legit to me. I got my first haircut from him!

This aint my first rodeo...from 1944 to 2006 has featured some "bumps" eh!

Imagine what Canada would be like if the "Govt du Jour" declared the War Measures Act because of an "unapprehended insurrection" revolutionary group in our midst" (PM Trudeau, FLQ Crisis 1970's).

Not that that could ever happen eh!
 
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