TB; Congrats on your new Remington. I personally would have preferred the 6mm Remington, but since it's not available, the 243 will have to do for now. I'm about to ship a 40X away for a rebarrel to 260AI. I bet that'll tear a hole in a yote too!! I smacked a yote earlier with my 220 Swift at around 375 yards using a 50 Nosler BT started at 4000+ It didn't do the hide any favors, either. There were chunks of lung hanging out a 3" diameter hole on the opposite side. Must say, he didn't go far. Regards, Eagleye.
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good choice in cartridge...and rifle
most of the 243 naysayers have probably never owned one...I've owned a few 243's....who can argue with a 70 grainer at 3600..or an 85 grainer at 3400...?....this blows all the common 22 cal centerfires out of the water on long range 'yotes.....
give 'em he11 tod....
most of the 243 naysayers have probably never owned one...I've owned a few 243's....who can argue with a 70 grainer at 3600..or an 85 grainer at 3400...?....this blows all the common 22 cal centerfires out of the water on long range 'yotes.....
give 'em he11 tod....
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How about a 55grain pill travelling at 3600 FPS from a .22-250?
The coyotes and gophers I have shot didn't know a lick of difference.
Im not trashing the 243, but other cartridges are capable of meeting those speeds you listed and have the same effect on a wild dog.
The coyotes and gophers I have shot didn't know a lick of difference.
Im not trashing the 243, but other cartridges are capable of meeting those speeds you listed and have the same effect on a wild dog.
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powder burner said:
I agree...a old friend of mine has taken tons of coyotes with a 22-250 and a 6mm....he says there's a lot of difference between the two cartridges when the range is long....I've seen him hit a few with the 85 Sierra out of the 6mm and it definetly hits them harder than the 22 cal.....but how hard do you really have to hit a coyote?...your mileage may vary......
the 25-06 is another good long range 'yote blaster...
back when I had very few rifles and even less $$..I spent two summers shooting a 243 BDL Varmint at gophers...the 58 gr VMax works well but the 243 recoils a bit more than most 22 cals.....not a real good hi-volume gopher rifle but they do work.......
powder burner said:
Really now? NOt at 400 yards... Your 22-250 is incapable of bucking wind like its bigger 24 cal brother...
How about you compare down range...
A bit of a different story...
Secondly...
Now load a 95 gr bullet in your 22-250 for a "Dual purpose" cartridge
The 22-250 is once again, Incapable...
Im not saying the 22-250 isnt a good cartridge, but your not comparing apples to apples... a dirtpig may not know the difference at 300 yards, but a coyote/ Wolf/ Deer/ Bear will...
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I dont need a "dual" purpose round in my 22-250 thankyou very much.
I have other cartridges to choose from if I wanted a "dual" purpose round/cartridge.
A fmj in my 30-06 bucks the wind good enough out to 400 yards for coyotes. been there done that,yawn
I have other cartridges to choose from if I wanted a "dual" purpose round/cartridge.
A fmj in my 30-06 bucks the wind good enough out to 400 yards for coyotes. been there done that,yawn
prosper said:
you internet number crunchers amaze me.
and which factory rifle has the ability to do that? HOw many rifles come 1/7 from the factory?
OK, now lets compare them to 105gr Amax's or 95gr ballistic tips. (.500 for those of you with a search button) out of the 243 (which you can still shoot accurately out of the factory twist rifles).
Check your evelocity at 400 yards, and come talk to me...
At 400 yards, your 105 (started at 2900fps) is doing 2224fps, and has deflected 10.24" (10mph wind), with a 39" drop
The 75gr A-MAX is doing 2464fps (down from 3300 at the muzzle) and has drifted 10.15" with a 31" drop.
And who cares about factory rifles, the poster has already stated that the gun is going to the 'smith's.
Anything else?
The 75gr A-MAX is doing 2464fps (down from 3300 at the muzzle) and has drifted 10.15" with a 31" drop.
And who cares about factory rifles, the poster has already stated that the gun is going to the 'smith's.
Anything else?
Nope, you proved my point. Thanks. Either way, the 243 has an edge for versitility, and downrange ability...
Tod, over to the darkside are you?
Watch, the 260 will become a backseat driver to the 243.... yeah, I know Not likely...
Tod, over to the darkside are you?
Watch, the 260 will become a backseat driver to the 243.... yeah, I know
Not likely...
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DarrylDB said:
Darryl.... you'd be best to NOT underestimate the juice a 22-250 has at long range.
I've lost count of the dogs I've taken over 300 yards, and the last few decent pokes have been have taken a handful in mid-high 400yd range, and two at over 500yds (522 and 561 yds)... all were with the 50gr Vmax except the one pictured below. They went down just like they do at 25yds.... VERY impressive!
22-250 Rem 55gr Vmax @ ~ 3600fps - 561yds
Wolf, Deer, Bear... different story... but for coyotes the 22-250 has it!
When it comes to these fellas though.... I prefer my 280AI and 140gr TSX, as angles are often tough, shots distant, and the quarry fairly hard to come by.
I've killed 2 with my 22-250 but prefer a little more bullet on these fellas.
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Ackley, Don't be posting no actual hunting type pics! Makes me wonder how we survived...back in the dark old days, say 10-12 years ago...when we didn't have chronographs and self appointed, internet ballistics experts...nobody to tell us that our rifles were no good, our bullets were no good. All we did was hunt and kill stuff, and use that knowledge to judge whether or not our bullets worked. We've come a long way!
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a 22-250 wont knock over a coyote at 400 yards because daryl db said so. It must be true
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Rich, Im not underestimating the 22-250... Im looking for one right now. (or a 223, or a swift)
It is not a versitile as a 243 though IMHO. (and for the same reason as you described above).
I can shoot 55's at over 4000fps, or a 105 @ 2880 FPS both with less velocity loss @ long range and more retained energy than the 22-250.
My only point...
Your right Powder, because I said so... Numbnutts
It is not a versitile as a 243 though IMHO. (and for the same reason as you described above).
I can shoot 55's at over 4000fps, or a 105 @ 2880 FPS both with less velocity loss @ long range and more retained energy than the 22-250.
My only point...
Your right Powder, because I said so... Numbnutts
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RickF said:
C'mon Rick, dont you love everyone having a "Favourites" list of ballistic pages to argue with. This is the internet Rick, you of all people should know that real experience isnt important.
Its someones ability to regurgitate whats written on a website that really matters here.
a 22-250 @ 550 yards is like a 223 @ 450. hardly ideal but if you can hit him, it should kill him, as proven
the 6mms, as I see it, give you a bit more insurance on bad angle shots and on bigger critters like wolves. I suppose my 260 would do the same as a 243, but since Im a gun nut (albeit a broken one), a new gun is never a bad thing
the 6mms, as I see it, give you a bit more insurance on bad angle shots and on bigger critters like wolves. I suppose my 260 would do the same as a 243, but since Im a gun nut (albeit a broken one
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22-250 and .243
The 22-250 is a varmint rifle, the .243 doubles as a big game rifle and is also suited to varminting.
The 22-250 is a varmint rifle, the .243 doubles as a big game rifle and is also suited to varminting.
