Aside from ammo cost, the 7.62x39 Soviet M43 cartridge really has nothing over a Supersonic .300 Blk loading. A non-site sponsor was recently selling new (old stock) .300 Blk Conversion Kits for the ACR, one of which I purchased. I now have a calibre quick-change worth making, along with the ability to do so! Along with a 10" "novelty" barrel and the 18.5" NR Barrel in 5.56mm, it makes for a versatile package. If we were permitted suppressors, the ability to go .300 Blk Subsonic suppressed would be simply amazing. Alas....
New ACR in the works ??
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Aside from ammo cost, the 7.62x39 Soviet M43 cartridge really has nothing over a Supersonic .300 Blk loading. A non-site sponsor was recently selling new (old stock) .300 Blk Conversion Kits for the ACR, one of which I purchased. I now have a calibre quick-change worth making, along with the ability to do so! Along with a 10" "novelty" barrel and the 18.5" NR Barrel in 5.56mm, it makes for a versatile package. If we were permitted suppressors, the ability to go .300 Blk Subsonic suppressed would be simply amazing. Alas....
Yes the ammo cost is the draw for me.
The ACR is stuck with a high cost blue print, and it is unnecessarily more complicated and therefore costly to make and heavy ( and proned to part failures). Rightfully they need to do something to mitigate some these issues before it can be a more viable commercial item.
The right way and efficient way to make this kind of rifle is the FN SCAR.
They need to cut the total part count.
They need to cut the complexity, cost and weight of the folding stock.
They need to cut cost ( and weight) off the QD barrel assemble -cut the lever and make it a separate tool. Find a way to eliminate the push rod alignment block to save cost and weight, if it means redesigning the gas system.
Move the charging handle back to the center, so they can produce a higher yield off each extrusion tube in receiver production - and use the same extrusion tube to make the handguard. The way it is done right now is complicated, terrible ( forward charging handle location ), adding weight and wasteful of materials, labour and time.
Changing the QD trunnion to a user swappable non QD trunnion. Phase out the expensive QD barrel assemble.
The right way and efficient way to make this kind of rifle is the FN SCAR.
They need to cut the total part count.
They need to cut the complexity, cost and weight of the folding stock.
They need to cut cost ( and weight) off the QD barrel assemble -cut the lever and make it a separate tool. Find a way to eliminate the push rod alignment block to save cost and weight, if it means redesigning the gas system.
Move the charging handle back to the center, so they can produce a higher yield off each extrusion tube in receiver production - and use the same extrusion tube to make the handguard. The way it is done right now is complicated, terrible ( forward charging handle location ), adding weight and wasteful of materials, labour and time.
Changing the QD trunnion to a user swappable non QD trunnion. Phase out the expensive QD barrel assemble.
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I didnt find the ACR heavy... they dont need to change anything to make them sell well in Canada outside of equipping NR barrels at no added cost. I think that lack of part support, the introduction of AR alternative receiver sets to the market and lack of NR barrels options was the only things that held them back here in Canada. I do agree that the platform would need major modifications and refinements to be successful in America tho.
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Check Templar Precision.
Cant tell if thats sarcasm... or just a sad attempt at trying to stir the water.
Uh, NO.
The ACR features an aluminum Upper Receiver, a Tool-Less Quick-Change Barrel System, and arguably the best Retractable and Folding Buttstock on the market. The G36 lacks all of the aforementioned features and has a gritty 10-lb trigger pull. The two very different rifles are difficult to confuse....
I very much enjoy my ACR. It is a well-designed, robust and reliable firearms system. As is the G36, but they are apples and oranges aside from the shared calibre....
I put a super acr geiselle trigger in mine and holy moly, best rifle I ever shot.
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Totally agree. Like many of the people in this thread I own both rifles, and despite a host of things that bushmaster/Remington could have done to make the ACR even better, it is an excellent, very reliable platform. Head to head with my G 36, my ACR with my non QD trunnion, lighter profile 18.6” barrel and super ACR trigger, is by far my preferred rifle.
The whole appeal to the acr is that you can have virtually any Caliber than fits in an AR mag and swap between them quickly. None of mine are 223.
If you intend to only use it as a 223 rifle, then I would rather have a G36
If you intend to only use it as a 223 rifle, then I would rather have a G36
How much and from where?
