New AGW Linear Muzzle Brakes

The lack of a crush washer should be rectified, even if it raises the price slightly. I recently ordered one of these to come with my DDMK18 and if I then have to go searching for a washer or pay more to ship one than its worth that is definitely a piss off. The devil is in the details.
 
redddogg69 said:
The lack of a crush washer should be rectified, even if it raises the price slightly. I recently ordered one of these to come with my DDMK18 and if I then have to go searching for a washer or pay more to ship one than its worth that is definitely a piss off. The devil is in the details.
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Agreed - to soften the blow on the shipping price i simply ordered more stuff for my MK18. MOD0 grip, ergo ladder covers, crush washer - delivered, 77.00. no love lost i wanted it all. but to be fair AGW should ship that little piece of cheap hardware with it. I really expected the break to come with it.
 
crocty said:
Agreed - to soften the blow on the shipping price i simply ordered more stuff for my MK18. MOD0 grip, ergo ladder covers, crush washer - delivered, 77.00. no love lost i wanted it all. but to be fair AGW should ship that little piece of cheap hardware with it. I really expected the break to come with it.
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I also have other things to come from OSTS so it's not a huge deal, but if its needed for install it should come with especially for such a small item. It just leaves a frustration which is always remembered more than the good with consumers.
 
redddogg69 said:
I also have other things to come from OSTS so it's not a huge deal, but if its needed for install it should come with especially for such a small item. It just leaves a frustration which is always remembered more than the good with consumers.
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You are correct.......simple, cheap part - just put it in the box!
 
You guys are all right. Small detail that we didn't realize would be an issue. We are looking into either a steady supply of these or simply running a batch ourselves. Once complete we will be including them with all of our future muzzle devices produced.

Thanks for the feedback. We do listen!!
 
Allen Gun Works said:
You guys are all right. Small detail that we didn't realize would be an issue. We are looking into either a steady supply of these or simply running a batch ourselves. Once complete we will be including them with all of our future muzzle devices produced.

Thanks for the feedback. We do listen!!
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This is the difference between good companies and great ones.
 
We have crush washers in stock. We'll add some to the boxes and Mike can replace our stock when available.
 
bandit86 said:
How does it work? How can it direct a blast forward and reduce recoil?
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right now all the gasses of your shot are coming out of the barrel, no muzzle brake.
with this linear brake the gasses go forward and are directed to the surrounding gas holes while the bullet goes through the center.
from what i remember reading 10+ years ago, part of the sound is caused by gas mixing with air, which also causes expansion and more recoil, so slowing the gasses down slows recoil.
the "gun expert' that i read that from was complaining about movies putting silencers on revolvers ....lol

i think the main objective of this design is to reduce side blast, so when you are shooting with friends around they dont keep getting hit with the blast.
i couldnt believe how bad my 10.5 was till i stood next to my friend shooting.
im trying my AGW brakes out this week, havent had a chance to try them yet, but i watched lots of reviews on linear brakes first and decided this is the design i needed.
i think they are good as hiding the flash as well, similar to the flaming pig's concept.
 
ez8 said:
right now all the gasses of your shot are coming out of the barrel, no muzzle brake.
with this linear brake the gasses go forward and are directed to the surrounding gas holes while the bullet goes through the center.
from what i remember reading 10+ years ago, part of the sound is caused by gas mixing with air, which also causes expansion and more recoil, so slowing the gasses down slows recoil.
the "gun expert' that i read that from was complaining about movies putting silencers on revolvers ....lol

i think the main objective of this design is to reduce side blast, so when you are shooting with friends around they dont keep getting hit with the blast.
i couldnt believe how bad my 10.5 was till i stood next to my friend shooting.
im trying my AGW brakes out this week, havent had a chance to try them yet, but i watched lots of reviews on linear brakes first and decided this is the design i needed.
i think they are good as hiding the flash as well, similar to the flaming pig's concept.
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You are right. We tend to call this the "friendly" brake. It does make things quieter on the firing line. Although there is no actual noise reduction, the blast is directed downrange, making it a little less annoying. Don't get me wrong though, on my 7.5" there is still quite a bark but less than there would be with a typical brake design.

We have noticed very little flash reduction with this brake. There is not really meant to be any with this design. We are looking at incorporating flash reduction into future versions of this type of brake.

The one thing we found in our research of this design was the claims that the linear holes help "straighten out" the swirling gases coming out of the barrel. While we have no way to test this scientifically, we have noticed during testing and have had positive feedback on the subject, that there is a marked reduction in muzzle flip. While there is nothing built into the design to reduce muzzle rise per se, the affect of the linear holes appears to reduce to amount the barrel wanders from the point of aim on each shot. This is why we didn't incorporate a twist into the hole pattern.

Overall, we have been very happy with the way this product has performed and appreciate all of the positive feedback. We have taken the suggestions seriously and will be producing more thread patterns to fit a larger variety of rifles.
 
bandit86 said:
How does it work? How can it direct a blast forward and reduce recoil?
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Basically, as with most muzzle brakes, the gases are "slowed down" by the design. For the millisecond or so that the bullet is blocking the larger center hole, the rest of the gas is forced to exit through the smaller holes. This slowing down, or "braking", of the gases "pulls" the rifle forward resulting in less felt recoil. I am sure there are more scientific terms and explanations for this, but the quoted words are used to describe it in the simplest way to make it easier to understand. There are much more efficient muzzle brake designs, but they are much louder and noise is what this design helps to mitigate.
 
The equal and opposite reaction of all the forward energy produced in firing is recoil. Included in all this recoil inducing energy are the rapidly expanding gasses pushing the bullet. That burning powder and gas does have mass. By redirecting that gas (and any unburnt powder as with really short barrels) you can shave a theoretical 20% off the the firearm's recoil by changing the direction the gas is traveling. By using baffles to harness this energy some brakes claim to achieve a 50% recoil reduction. This percentage of recoil reduction is in addition to that reduction achieved by the weight of the brake itself. (Adding weight to the gun, makes it harder for recoil to move the gun rearward)

There are videos out there of people firing .50 cal rifles with muzzle brakes, and then firing with the brake removed. This extreme example demonstrates how drastic a brake's recoil reduction can be. But you do not need a massive heavy .50 cal style brake to achieve recoil reduction. You just need a brake of some sort and some gas to reroute. Most brakes achieve a 20% reduction in recoil.

Its also worth noting that two firearms of the same calibre projectile but with different cartridge volumes will achieve different degrees of reduction. For example, the ammount of recoil reducion (that % off of the recoil) felt in a .223 with a brake would be less than the recoil reduction on a .22-250. Of course, the .223 will always have less recoil but the .22-250 gives the brake more gas and more energy to work with.

So if you are putting this on a .22lr you are not going to feel any appreciable recoil because 20% of nothing is...

But even with a .22lr you will get one benefit. The gasses from the AGW linear brake are all directed forwards. In any firearm, as soon as the bullet exits the muzzle, the gas driving it expands violently in the absence of the bullet's ressistance. This violent expansion occurs in all direction with equal force. By channeling it forwards and increasing the exit opening, you not only get a recoil reduction, but the people beside you arent cursing you for sending all that noise and concussion right at them. Normal brakes, that direct this blast to the sides and back and punishing for the people around you. Only the shooter is spared by his position behind the firearm. This linear baffling has the effect of making the blast seem much less for anyone not in front of the gun.

Hunting gophers with one of these brakes on a .223 or .22-250 would be fun for everyone in the group and you would have so little recoil you could watch the bullet impact through your scope at high magnification...
 
yesterday is the first time ive used them... just didnt have a chance to get out to the range.
great brake, especially for what it costs. i got it to reduce side blast for when im bench shooting, there were a lot of guys at my club complaining and i ended up putting a ammo box to my right to deflect some of the blast.
with the AWG brake it does exactly what i wanted and was hoping for it to do, pushes all the blast forwards and i was surprised at how little muzzle rise there is. my buddy who is military came down and was shooting my rifles and he really liked them, we were able to do quick follow up shots and keep on target.
they reduce the sound to the shooter, it really does throw everything down range. a flash hider on a 10.5 it is not (but its not designed for that)... i was getting some nice fireballs coming out using the norc 5.56 ammo (but it was a smaller fireball than on the A2). in comparison with barrel length, on the 12.5 there was minimal flash.

i would have to compare it side by side to a A2 to tell you if it reduced recoil but lets get real...its a .223/5.56 there isnt exactly a lot of recoil to begin with, but i think it felt lighter. for me, i want something to keep on target and keep the blast away from my friends to the left and right, and look cool, this brake fits the bill. ill know how much recoil reduction there is when i get one of these for my remington 700 in 308... cant wait for that!
i think i sold about 3-5 guys on them yesterday at the range...the price, looks and function were good selling points....hard to go wrong.
 
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