New Guide Gun for Me! - Now with Pics!
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Johnn Peterson
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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I don't know if you get the magazine Outdoor Edge or if you've seen the latest issue but there is an article in it you may find interesting. It's titled My 45 Zipper and it's a fairly indepth article on reloading for and a hunt using the .45-70. While the particular firearm in the article is a Ruger #1, some of the loads tested may be on the hot side for most other brands or action styles. Nonetheless, not a bad article and good reading.
In my 1895 Marlin GS, for jacketed bullet loads I like the Speer 400gr FN. I also have a number of different cast bullets I use, two of my favorites are a 325gr GC and a 420gr GC.
To help out my eyes, I've mounted a Leupold 1x4, VARI-XII and use a set of Weaver pivot mounts that gives me quick access to the iron sights if needed.
Enjoy your .45-70, A great old calibre and a fun gun to shoot.
In my 1895 Marlin GS, for jacketed bullet loads I like the Speer 400gr FN. I also have a number of different cast bullets I use, two of my favorites are a 325gr GC and a 420gr GC.
To help out my eyes, I've mounted a Leupold 1x4, VARI-XII and use a set of Weaver pivot mounts that gives me quick access to the iron sights if needed.
Enjoy your .45-70, A great old calibre and a fun gun to shoot.
RussellDyck
CGN Regular
- Location
- Lethbridge, AB
AHHHHHHHHH Stop with the 45-70 guide gun talk! I've come to with in an inch of cashing in all my vacation pay to buy a stainless guide rifle
Too bad I need that money to pay for my last year schooling for my apprenticship
Darrel sure does top notch work. If you need to rely on your guide gun it is well worth the shipping to have Darrel work it over. His dura coat over parkering finishing is also amazing. Immaculate with real attention to detail. Enjoy your new rifle it is a beauty!
Hey guys, just bought myself a 336XLR. It's my first Marlin and I'm just wondering about the dislikes that you all have about the cross-bolt safety. Is it because it could easily be engaged into the "safe" position, you go to fire a round and....nothing???
Another question, the left hand side of the receiver just begs for some custom engraving or laser etching. Have your guys ever added a bit of your own custom art work?
Another question, the left hand side of the receiver just begs for some custom engraving or laser etching. Have your guys ever added a bit of your own custom art work?
question guys...
What is Wild West Bear proof ejector.
A more postiive ejector. But the marlins are 100% reliable, right.
What is a 'happy trigger'?
A better, adjustable, no creep trigger?
I do like the triggers on my tikka's and old sako.
I am also thinking of going this way on my next gun.
What is Wild West Bear proof ejector.
A more postiive ejector. But the marlins are 100% reliable, right.
What is a 'happy trigger'?
A better, adjustable, no creep trigger?
I do like the triggers on my tikka's and old sako.
I am also thinking of going this way on my next gun.
another what is wrong with a cross bolt safety?
To the dedicated fans of the lever guns forgive my question.
But I have never owned a lever gun.
So I could hunt with the hammer cocked and safety on correct?
Clicking the safety off would be quiet, like a bolt gun.
I assume cocking the hammer is hard to do quiet, with gloves and cold hands, in the heat on the moment right.
To the dedicated fans of the lever guns forgive my question.
But I have never owned a lever gun.
So I could hunt with the hammer cocked and safety on correct?
Clicking the safety off would be quiet, like a bolt gun.
I assume cocking the hammer is hard to do quiet, with gloves and cold hands, in the heat on the moment right.
Cocking the hammer is very quiet, not like on a revolver where it's also turning the cylinder. It's also much easier to do with gloves than pushing the safety.
Hunting with the hammer cocked and the safety on is possible, but it's far easier to have the safety off (or removed entirely) and have the hammer in the half-cocked 'safe' position. Thumbing the hammer back to full #### while shouldering the gun is a much more natural movement than working the safety.
This method is also safer in my opinion. With a fully cocked rifle on safety you can bump the trigger and release the hammer, in which case you're relying entirely on the mechanical safety. Carrying the gun un-cocked means you'd have to accidentaly pull the hammer back and then pull the trigger before it would fire.
Anyway, to each their own.
Hunting with the hammer cocked and the safety on is possible, but it's far easier to have the safety off (or removed entirely) and have the hammer in the half-cocked 'safe' position. Thumbing the hammer back to full #### while shouldering the gun is a much more natural movement than working the safety.
This method is also safer in my opinion. With a fully cocked rifle on safety you can bump the trigger and release the hammer, in which case you're relying entirely on the mechanical safety. Carrying the gun un-cocked means you'd have to accidentaly pull the hammer back and then pull the trigger before it would fire.
Anyway, to each their own.
well the safety (if you could call it that) on a pre crossbolt Marlin is a half cocked hammer so really all you do is pull the hammer back all the way and you are good to go (It is pretty easy to get the hammer caught and fully #### you rifle chasing hounds or getting through thick bush or even on clothing, especially with a hammer spur/extention)). on a Cross bolt rifle you have both (half cocked and cross bolt) .
The good thing about the cross bolt is when youi wish to empty your tubular magazine you engage the crossbolt and you have another element of saftey as you cycle the action to remove the unuesed cartridges.
I always hear people complain about the cross bolt but how many would acually swap for a non crossbolt rifle.
I would swap my non crossbolt for a crossbolt rifle .
The good thing about the cross bolt is when youi wish to empty your tubular magazine you engage the crossbolt and you have another element of saftey as you cycle the action to remove the unuesed cartridges.
I always hear people complain about the cross bolt but how many would acually swap for a non crossbolt rifle.
I would swap my non crossbolt for a crossbolt rifle .
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.........actually Winchesters and Marlins with cross bolt safeties are flawed. Use common sense with hammer guns and there is nothing to worry about. People that need crossbolt safeties with hammer guns should stay off the range and outta the field. Out of real lever gun aficiandos its your logic that is flawed. What exactly does the crossbolt safety improve??
Here ya go :
http://www.gunblast.com/LFCombs-Win94.htm
Out of real lever gun aficiandos its your logic that is flawed. What exactly does the crossbolt safety improve??Here ya go
:http://www.gunblast.com/LFCombs-Win94.htm
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I think that's the bottom line. While the increased 'safety' provided by the crossbolt is mostly illusury, the inconvenience and potential FTF's are very real. It's not worth it. The crossbolt safety isn't a design improvement requested by customers or thought up by gunsmiths, it's a superfluous feature added by company lawyers.
Next years model comes with a seatbelt.
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- Ft. Mac. Alberta
Maybe next year we'll see extra safeties on Handi rifles and 1885's?!
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I have tried to take a hurried shot on game with my Marlin 1895GS 45-70 and have had the hammer drop with an extremely loud click because the safety accidently got hit/knocked into the safe position.
I hate that safety now but haven't done anything about it yet. I think I'll do the o-ring trick....
I hate that safety now but haven't done anything about it yet. I think I'll do the o-ring trick....
The cross-bolt seems to be a device for preventing spurious law suits against the manufacturer.
Many of us old duffers grew up with lever rifles without safeties and are used to operating safely using either an empty chamber or a loaded chamber and the hammer in the half-#### position.
The danger for us is that we may somehow leave the cross-bolt safety on and operate old style. In that case it is possible to drop the hammer when you need it and get only a click.
On my Marlin 1895 GS I have an O-ring on the safety to prevent this. As I use it mainly as a defense rifle I cannot take a chance on leaving the safety on.
Younger shooters who have learned on lever rifles with cross-bolt safeties may not have any problems at all as they don't have years of experience to "unlearn".
I can see the benefits of having a cross-bolt safety on when unloading a lever rifle but I prefer to unload by manually extracting the cartridges from the action through the ejection port, rather than using the lever action. I feel it is safer that way.
So it's a case of an individuals experiences and preferences.
Many of us old duffers grew up with lever rifles without safeties and are used to operating safely using either an empty chamber or a loaded chamber and the hammer in the half-#### position.
The danger for us is that we may somehow leave the cross-bolt safety on and operate old style. In that case it is possible to drop the hammer when you need it and get only a click.
On my Marlin 1895 GS I have an O-ring on the safety to prevent this. As I use it mainly as a defense rifle I cannot take a chance on leaving the safety on.
Younger shooters who have learned on lever rifles with cross-bolt safeties may not have any problems at all as they don't have years of experience to "unlearn".
I can see the benefits of having a cross-bolt safety on when unloading a lever rifle but I prefer to unload by manually extracting the cartridges from the action through the ejection port, rather than using the lever action. I feel it is safer that way.
So it's a case of an individuals experiences and preferences.
