You are missing the point. They are not purposefully making things expensive. You just don't have a clue what it takes to run a gunshop. I don't know any gunshop owners that are very rich men. Well off maybe but they do own a business...
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So you think we should pay $860 or 56% more for a COLT SAA Army in Canada than they pay in the the US?
I suggest you call them right now and order all 5! What a deal!!!
I buy only from Canadian firearm retailers and spent over $10,000 last year on new firearms from Canadian dealers. But I'll only buy if I think the price is fair. Keep them honest by not buying when they try to overcharge and if the distributor is gouging don't buy that product from anyone until he brings his prices down.
Right. If running a gun shop was such a profitable enterprise we would see a lot more of them opening up....but we don't. These guys are trying to hang on in a climate that is trying to force them out, as are we all. Buying elsewhere will virtually guarantee that they fail.
A good price is one thing, but cheaper isn't always better. If saving four hundred bucks means I am cutting the throat of the Canadian shooting sports economy and letting the anti's gain another easy increment in our systematic destruction, well it's pretty simple math for me.
For me, I would rather buy second hand if I can't afford new.
Maybe you need to shop around. Gun store owners do have to compete. Believe it or not, there are good deals to be had in Canada. Check out the Beretta 92FS at Sporteque right now, only $749.99 before 5% tax.
http:// www. sporteque.ca/product.php?id_product=158
Gee, when I couldn't afford to shoot - (and I still can't shoot everything I want) - I didn't. I kept the guns that I had from before, shot them when I could afford ammo, and when I couldn't afford ammo, I didn't shoot. There were quite a few years like that.
The general principle of "ammo affordation" is usually directly related to the speed/desire that one get's into reloading.... 
In my own case I need to get my presses and loading set-up back in business as soon as.......
NAA.
In my own case I need to get my presses and loading set-up back in business as soon as.......
NAA.
- Location
- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
I was reloading from day 1 and that is the only way I can afford to shoot. And yes it is the cx4 I was mentioning earlier, and in 9mm, or .45 as I reload for both but I think the higher velocity of the 9mm is better suited for a carbine.
Actually, other than sight radius, you don't gain much on most 9mm loads going to a longer barrel.
Take for example a 147 grain Hydrashok...5" barrel, 1007 fps...15" barrel, 1090 fps.
That is a lot of barrel to get an extra 80 fps!
Unless you mean that the higher velocity 9mm cycles carbines better.
- Location
- Sault Ste. Marie
- Location
- Sault Ste. Marie
Yeah like the guys who brought in the first Poly's this year charging over 600 bucks when they knew piles were coming in. They took advantage of all the people starving for these guns and People still defended them after word got out that the average price was going to be 500 and that they would be available by the thousands.
- Location
- NW New-Brunswick
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- Nova Scotia, Canada
This is why gunshops (and various businesses) don't prosper in Canada. I see if first hand. People say "I wish we could get this in Canada. You then bust your ass making calls, emails, doing paperwork, etc to give your customers something they can't get anywhere else. Then they look at it and go "it's cheaper in the US, you're trying to rip me off". People just think the rent, power bill and the all the time you spend calling and researching pays for itself. We're so sick of hearing this price BS from people that a lot of times we'll admit "it's cheaper on such and such and internet site". If they are willing to support local businesses they stay, and if not they leave and it saves the wasted time, (which essentially equates to wasted money)
On a side note: I wonder how many of these people who buy US are the same people that whine about the state of this country when the place they work is closed down and they are laid off?
On a side note: I wonder how many of these people who buy US are the same people that whine about the state of this country when the place they work is closed down and they are laid off?
This is a general statement, but it seems the one's that are mostly complaining about anyone of us making a purchase in the US, seem to be either store owners, suppliers, importers, distributors.
I don't see the average joe on here complaining that he can save himself a few hundred bucks if not more.
Makes you wonder.....
Not everything is cheaper in the US or in particular at BGC, some of their items are the same if not more
But as a consumer, I have a choice to spend my hard earned cash as I see fit and for the best price on an item I can get.
I have many firearms, not all were purchased in the US, as at times I found a better deal here in my own backyard
Hell the cash I saved, I ended up spending at my local establishment, either on ammo, or accessories, or what ever
But to pay almost 3 grand for a pistol here, that one can get for half of that in the US, please don't make us feel like the bad guy's in wanting to save a few bucks......
Sheesh, I even shop around for toilet paper to get the best price I can, why not with firearms......
Not liking LeBarons as much as the next guy at times, but I did purchase my Beretta Xtrema2 KO and walked out 1800.00 dollars (approx) or so lighter in my wallet, could have bought the same in the US, why not, it was the same price at the time.......so no need to
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I don't see the average joe on here complaining that he can save himself a few hundred bucks if not more.
Makes you wonder.....
Not everything is cheaper in the US or in particular at BGC, some of their items are the same if not more
But as a consumer, I have a choice to spend my hard earned cash as I see fit and for the best price on an item I can get.
I have many firearms, not all were purchased in the US, as at times I found a better deal here in my own backyard
Hell the cash I saved, I ended up spending at my local establishment, either on ammo, or accessories, or what ever
But to pay almost 3 grand for a pistol here, that one can get for half of that in the US, please don't make us feel like the bad guy's in wanting to save a few bucks......
Sheesh, I even shop around for toilet paper to get the best price I can, why not with firearms......
Not liking LeBarons as much as the next guy at times, but I did purchase my Beretta Xtrema2 KO and walked out 1800.00 dollars (approx) or so lighter in my wallet, could have bought the same in the US, why not, it was the same price at the time.......so no need to
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- Location
- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
So bottom line the reason for my original post was to open peoples eyes and I hope its done that. Not like the thread was started as a complaint about prices and just wanted to show there is options. If 2-400 bucks wasn't a huge sum of money to me I would gladly support the local shop. Everything I have thus far has been from the locals and I will continue to frequent the local shop. But big purchases which I only make a few of in a year might not be. All you who say I'm killin the sport in canada, if the difference was the 100 bucks my shop might make in profit, we wouldn't be in the situation we are in. There is bigger things to worry about then the money. It is peoples attitude we need to change not gun prices.
- Location
- Sault Ste. Marie
exactly,
People who say you shouldn't mind paying more to a local guy are plain idiots. If I can order something for 300 bucks less over the internet and the local guy won't match that then to hell with the local guy. I tired of hearing that lame atgument "he's got lights to pay and taxes and.........." I have lights to pay and a family to feed and a pile of bills too.
Matching would be nice....but I doubt it, what got me even more irate, and really made my decision to purchase in the US, was I was actually buying 2 XD 45 ACP's and asked the local guy how much would they knock off their price since it was 2 being purchased at once
get ready
hold onto your hats
25 bucks was what they offered to discount the price by, and that was if both were purchased........
I moved on
I'm going to jump in here, simply because the ignorance and self-rightiousness in this thread is too funny to ignore.
To everyone that posted on Harrier's original reply as per below, it would seem that you are making a hell of a lot of assumptions to justify your uneducated assessment that the resellers are "fleecing" Canadian customers.
Notice that Harrier states "Our cost from our distributor"
You assume this is a US distributor? Could it be a Canadian Distributor? One who has had to pay all the import costs, stocking and distribution costs, as well as exchange rate because they may have purchased this item 6 months ago when the dollar was 20% higher than it is now, tax's, duty's and tarriffs. plus shipping from the USA as well as shipping within Canada, etc, etc.
the ignorance here is frightening. The bottom line of any free-market economy is if you are not happy with the price for the product offered, go somewhere else!
If you think you can do better, on the cheap, than do it. If it works, consider yourself a crafty consumer and give yourself a pat on the back. Enjoy your new handgun.
If is doesn't work for you, and you wind up paying the same or more, with additional hassles and liabilities, then perhaps you will choose to support the local Canadian resale market in the future.
I laugh when I see people complain about the state of the Canadian economy in the same breath they talk about travelling south to buy product. Sure you save a couple points, but at what cost. If every Canadian bought their purchases stateside, there would be no economy here at all.
If that still does not sink in, think about it in these terms; What is it you do to earn an income? What service or product do you do to earn the money that supports your shooting habits and your wife's bon-bon addiction? Now imagine that your boss, or your customer decided he could get your labour, your product or your service at a discount, from a foreign source...
To everyone that posted on Harrier's original reply as per below, it would seem that you are making a hell of a lot of assumptions to justify your uneducated assessment that the resellers are "fleecing" Canadian customers.
Notice that Harrier states "Our cost from our distributor"
You assume this is a US distributor? Could it be a Canadian Distributor? One who has had to pay all the import costs, stocking and distribution costs, as well as exchange rate because they may have purchased this item 6 months ago when the dollar was 20% higher than it is now, tax's, duty's and tarriffs. plus shipping from the USA as well as shipping within Canada, etc, etc.
the ignorance here is frightening. The bottom line of any free-market economy is if you are not happy with the price for the product offered, go somewhere else!
If you think you can do better, on the cheap, than do it. If it works, consider yourself a crafty consumer and give yourself a pat on the back. Enjoy your new handgun.
If is doesn't work for you, and you wind up paying the same or more, with additional hassles and liabilities, then perhaps you will choose to support the local Canadian resale market in the future.
I laugh when I see people complain about the state of the Canadian economy in the same breath they talk about travelling south to buy product. Sure you save a couple points, but at what cost. If every Canadian bought their purchases stateside, there would be no economy here at all.
If that still does not sink in, think about it in these terms; What is it you do to earn an income? What service or product do you do to earn the money that supports your shooting habits and your wife's bon-bon addiction? Now imagine that your boss, or your customer decided he could get your labour, your product or your service at a discount, from a foreign source...
My company has already offshored jobs to India, Phillipines, USA and South America. It is currently exploring offshoring additional work to China. Our fabrication and calibration shops, heavy duty and automotive mechanics, building services (janitorial, air conditioning mechanics, plumbers, carpenters and painters) and electrical departments have been gutted and contracted out. Many departments have been downsized and contractors hired in place of regular employees (benefits and vacations cost money). Offshored jobs range from call centres, Tier 1 troubleshooting, network design and provisioning and Tier 1 tech support. The job numbers are in the thousands and growing. My company isn't an American corporation nor an international conglomerate, it is a 100+ year old Canadian company with roots from BC and Alberta. It is staggering to think how much money has been taken out of the Canadian economy....
- Location
- Sault Ste. Marie
that wouldn't happen cause my store sells most of the equipment at lower than the advertised US prices. Best thing is my boss buys her wholesale from the states. So she deals with import costs and the whole lot. when I hear bull like this I laugh.
