New Hunting Rifle Caliber

6 arc in howa mini with factory 108 eldm is your easy button if you want a 600 yard high performance watch it happen fun to shoot set up. That load will become one of the more popular loads on the shelves as time goes on. I just wish there were higher end rifles available on x39 case cartridges. I’d take it over a .243 any day. I’d take Grendel over .243 also and I did do that...ditched .243 as soon as I had Grendel. Zero regrets. A 6cm with 108s will go a long ways beyond most people’s ability to drive em but rifle choices not as good yet as the 6.5cm but will be easier to spot hits.

End of day choose a 21st century option not the 20th century options for off the shelf future. We aren’t going backwards in any game and this one no different.
 
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I currently own a Tikka T3X Chambered in .308 and im looking into changing rifle calibers. i knoe the .308 does pretty much what i need it to do but looking for a change and versatility. the caliber would be mostly to hunt whitetail deer/black bear and smaller animals. i have a lot of people talk to me about 6.5CM and 6.5PRC what are your thoughts ( most notable flat shooting) otherwise what caliber would you suggest and why? i dont not reload ammo so will be factory loads

thanks
308 is great overall cartridge. You can get ammo everywhere. For varmints, choose light bullets 110gr, for large animals 168gr and bears 180gr. If you add a light weight muzzle break, you will feel the recoil. It wont burn your barrel.
 
The over complication of cartridge selection will keep forums like this in business forever.
Agree. So much crossover, we like to pick fly sh1t from pepper though.

Do think for off the shelf ammo buyer one has to future think a bit and choose a 21st century option as he already has a 308 and he’s trying to find a downsize option.

The 20th century classics that will remain mostly 308 hp and above. The smaller than 308 class has the most 21st century options to consider as we’ve come along way in inflight and terminal ballistics understanding but also field shooting pros and cons for majority of shooters.
 
.243 is the minimum caliber allowed for deer, black bear and moose.

Hunting deer or moose with a 22-250 is illegal but 9mm or 38 spl is ok.
Sounds like Alberta. I got 308 and 6.5 Grendel in-house as but if I add another cartridge choice high chance it would be a 6cm to run factory 108’s.

It will only happen once the right rifle comes along. I’d buy a Sako 90 peak in 6.5 Grendel on xs action before that though lol. So for me it’s more of a rifle watch than a cartridge watch as I’d love a quality rifle match to my Sako in Grendel before I buy a hotrod toy. The play toy is the x39 case for me regardless and it’s proving for a long time now it’s more than just a play toy case.

Build it and we will come. ;)

Been dreaming of a Sako xs actioned Grendel a long long time now, had to bite the bullet while I’m still topside and grab the 308 to get the rifle I want lol. No complaints but still selfish so I want to eat my cake too so will await the x39 case revolution to catch up to the manufacturers of quality rifles. If they built any Sako 90 on a x39 case I’d be in again.

I hate my howa Grendel but it shoots tight and kids like it. Sako for dad please.
 
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It won't be for everyone, but 25-06 is a useful cartridge for everything from coyote to deer and black bear.
257 was Weatherbys favourite of his creations iirc
velocity kills , 25-06 is real close

re others, 257 Roberts had a following but nver really took off, yet modern similar are all the rage
260 was another good round, died before its prime
Modern marketing is building the new trend, not hunter demand imo
New PRS specialties seems to be what everyone needs lol
 
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Been dreaming of a Sako xs actioned Grendel a long long time now, had to bite the bullet while I’m still topside and grab the 308 to get the rifle I want lol. No complaints but still selfish so I want to eat my cake too so will await the x39 case revolution to catch up to the manufacturers of quality rifles. If they built any Sako 90 on a x39 case I’d be in again.
Might have to rely on Zastava and CZ for a nother bolt x39, not quite a Sako but
 
This is one thing that doesn't make any sense to me.
You guys can use a .270 but not a 44 in a lever gun which has way less range.
What's the reasoning behind this?
Apparently it was to limit the range of big game cartridges which still doesn't make sense as it's written for hunting and we don't have any center fire big game rifle seasons here. Shotgun and muzzleloader seasons for deer.
If the barrel is stamped 275 you're legal even though it's a 7mm like the 275 Rigby. A 270wby is legal but my 9mm carbine is not
 
Apparently it was to limit the range of big game cartridges which still doesn't make sense as it's written for hunting and we don't have any center fire big game rifle seasons here. Shotgun and muzzleloader seasons for deer.
If the barrel is stamped 275 you're legal even though it's a 7mm like the 275 Rigby. A 270wby is legal but my 9mm carbine is not
The way it was explained to me was that in Southern Ontario there was a fear ( Fear factor AGAIN!) of people using FMJ bullets in surplus ammo like the 308,3006 and 303 etc.
That law was brought in before the 220 Russion and 5.56 Nato came into being , which as I stated earlier, makes absolutely no sense!
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It won't be for everyone, but 25-06 is a useful cartridge for everything from coyote to deer and black bear.

257 was Weatherbys favourite of his creations iirc
velocity kills , 25-06 is real close

re others, 257 Roberts had a following but nver really took off, yet modern similar are all the rage
260 was another good round, died before its prime
Modern marketing is building the new trend, not hunter demand imo
New PRS specialties seems to be what everyone needs lol

I had been giving some thought to both the 25-06 and 264WM recently. Two Cals that you don’t hear much about anymore in the CM/PRC realm of todays wonder cartridges.
 
new wonder carts are catching on to .25 also ))
Hornady release the new heavy 134 and 138 gr specific for prs demand to fill the gap between 6 and 6.5 in fast twisters
Always trying to find that balance with sighting hits/misses and just-right recoil
 
Wanting to have another rifle in a smaller/lighter caliber than your 308 is always enough reason to buy a new rifle.
Gaining experience by experimenting with new new cartridges is always fun! (I know I sure have enjoyed this over the past 40 years!)

While the 243/6mm works great on deer, black bear do have heavier bone and muscle, and due to extra fat, loose skin and long hair, that tend to lend themselves for a larger caliber for better on-game performance, especially when bullet placement isn't as good as desired. (Here in BC, 22 calibers are illegal for hunting big game)
22 caliber centerfire rifles are indeed allowed to hunt big game in BC.

The indigenous folks of BC even use 22 Hornets, 223 Remington's or 22-250 caliber rifles to shoot moose, elk, deer and other big game.

So your statement is not correct.
 
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22 caliber centerfire rifles are indeed allowed to hunt big game in BC.

The indigenous folks of BC even use 22 Hornets, 223 Remington's or 22-250 caliber rifles to shoot moose, elk, deer and other big game.

So your statement is not correct.
This would be a recent change in the BC hunting regulations, as it use to state that big game hunting required a minimum caliber of 23 or larger (wierd, I know).
I realize that this statement is no longer in the Hunting Synopsis, which also used to have the disclaimer that read to the effect, that if it isn't printed in the Synopsis, it is still the hunter's responsibility to ensure that they knew the regulations as where a discrepancy existed, the regulations would apply.
Has the this regulation provision been repealed?
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I see it was last amended June 25, 2024
 
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