New lightweight mountain rifle, with a heavy side of Grizz. Debate starter.

Ardent said:
anglia2 sounds good, and Ted I'd love to see a photo if you still have one, too slick. Good to hear another report on the on game effect.
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Well, that was around 30 years ago, long before I was using a computer, so no digital pictures. I needed some money for a home purchase, and family always came first. It was no slouch on big game out to 200 yd, but rarely used that far as it had those fine little sights.



medvedqc said:
there is only one way to know ....

yes i third that i want to see a picture of that duo ...
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I will check and see if I can find any pictures of it in my hunting albums. The stock was sculpted a bit light, and the wrist had been repaired. Paul was still actively gunsmithing, and intended to restock it.



buckbrush said:
WOW, you sold a wonderful rifle , got any pictures. I imagine he got you drunk and loaned you his wife to start the deal?
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Don't drink, and have been married to a beautiful woman for more than 47 years who hunts and fishes with me. ;)

Ted
 
BigUglyMan said:
Probably not. Ted's just that kind of guy which is probably why he is one of the most respected guys on the board.

I wonder how many guys have a rifle of Ted's? Should start a poll.
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do not have one. my wife two ... im left handed and french speaking lol ...

i ve seen Ted drinking hot chocolate in the middle of really nowhere ... i confess i shared a cup or two of those hot beverages ...
 
BigUglyMan said:
Probably not. Ted's just that kind of guy which is probably why he is one of the most respected guys on the board.

I wonder how many guys have a rifle of Ted's? Should start a poll.
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There's a plan. I've been fortunate enough to purchase Two.
First, to fill the .270Win calibre vacancy in my life, I purchased one from Ted, a Husqvarna model 3000.



While in the hunt for a Schultz & Larsen in 358NM, I couldn't resist purchasing a second rifle from Ted, a VERY classy Husqvarna model 1651, and in 358NM.





I had planned to put it up for adoption when I finally got a Schultz & Larsen,:redface: but haven't been able to do so yet.
 
Besides having the bullets and wanting to stay with them in 375 and something stamped on your barrel. I am not total with it since the 9.3x62 is giving the same thing. It would be nice if cz carbine with the Kevlar stock would be in canada as this might be what a person is looking for.
 
keith mokry said:
Besides having the bullets and wanting to stay with them in 375 and something stamped on your barrel. I am not total with it since the 9.3x62 is giving the same thing. It would be nice if cz carbine with the Kevlar stock would be in canada as this might be what a person is looking for.
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If you're starting from zero, I agree, but once a person is already heavily invested in one caliber or the other, switching makes little sense because they are so similar. Factory rifles are fine when you can find what you want, otherwise you're going to have to consider a custom, or a semi-custom build, or you'll have to change your parameters. When a custom rifle is being considered, sooner or later the question of bore size availability will come up. On my latest build I wanted a 9.3 bore, but the barrel maker I chose makes a .375" but not a .366"; once that was determined the rest was easy, as the action type and the stock material had already been worked out.
 
Angus:

Not what you’re looking at, but pretty close. I’ve owned, shot & hunted with, a few Husqvarna 9.3x57 rifles over the past half-dozen or so years. While I enjoy(ed) them all, I find I especially enjoy the only one I kept that was built on a small ring Mauser receiver. (I still have 2 built on 98 receivers, but they just feel like different beasts entirely and are loaded differently). While just marginally shorter in length, the rifle built on the 96 action’s balance is entirely different. While not svelte; it weighs just over 8 pounds fully loaded with a Kahles steel tube 2.5x20 sitting on an EAW mount, it certainly feels that way.

Even with its 24” barrel, it is not a problem to keep it untangled in the willows or snag here in the Shield bush creek bottoms and it’s almost unnoticeable riding on the shoulder with a wide sling. When it comes time to make the shot, it does its job in a workmanlike manner. Admittedly not a grizz; simply blacks at tree stand distance, where they don’t go past the open area once hit. I would add that I’ve only loaded the PRVI bullet and have never tried factory ammunition. Nevertheless, they do their job.

Your 9.5x57 would likely behave very similarly. Just a thought, but perhaps you might want to consider 2 loads; a Hornady 300 gr. DGX or Woodleigh 300 gr. RNSN for hand-to-hand combat range encounters (S.D. at .305 is almost the same as the 9.3’s 285 S.D. of .307) & something like a 250 gr. Barnes TTSX for long-range sheep/goat, &c. If you had open sights, especially with a side-mount, that might make the setup easier (ie. Irons for the stopper load, glass for the long-range load).

As a few folks have pointed out, you’re going to do a lot more carrying than you are shooting. With that as a given, I believe you want a medium bore stalking rifle.

I second the motion that you pick up a Husqvarna in 9.3x57 to see if you like your chosen cartridge’s kissing cousin’s behaviour before you spend time & money having one built. For a couple C-notes, it would represent a lot of saved time & effort to prove or disprove your hypothesis. Who knows, you may even like it enough that you save you Ti action for something else.

My $0.02

Regards,

Jim
 
How do you get the most from a short/mid length action using a .473 bolt face?..............I still say start with a 284 case............375-284 would be able to exceed 35 Whelen or 9.3X62 exterior and terminal ballistics in equivalent barrel lengths AND Lapua makes brass for it. (not 375-284 obviously) JMHE
 
Adent, You must have suspected that things would go this way when you started this post.
I am at a loss as to why you would even bother buying such an action if you didn't already know what you were going to build,
That action is built to provide corrossion resistance at a minimum weight and dead nuts reliability!
I understand that you want a mountain rifle but are you willing to sacrifice flat trajectory for stopping power?
This is what you are asking this rifle to do, there are many long range calibers that fit the bill but they
are mostly long action calibers and your action is intermediate length, there will be a compromise no doubt.
Long range and stopping power rarely go hand in hand not true stopping power anyway, sgt.Rock (post 14) said it well.
I remember a Black Bear spooking me once, it was only ten feet away from me but I never saw it until it moved, It was
very spooky, I have seen many bears but never came upon one that hald it's ground like that,
I was lucky it went the other way because I don't think I would have had time to fire my rifle, it would
have been a terrible time to be second guessing my choice of caliber.
We all know that all the calibers mentioned so far would work under certain conditions but what would you
think would be the possible conditions when and if you ever came across a grizzly, would it be for stopping a charge?
I think this should guide you in choosing a suitable caliber for your new action otherwise just build a nice 7x57 for mountain game.
My 02
BB
 
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c-fbmi said:
How do you get the most from a short/mid length action using a .473 bolt face?..............I still say start with a 284 case............375-284 would be able to exceed 35 Whelen or 9.3X62 exterior and terminal ballistics in equivalent barrel lengths AND Lapua makes brass for it. (not 375-284 obviously) JMHE
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X2. I would want all the case capacity I could for throwing heavy large caliber bullets from a short/mid length action.
 
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