New lockhart option - Silver
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What, in your estimation, would entail being experienced with an AR15, so that I don't overstep in the future?
If my having carried an AR pattern rifle in the field for years in the military, having owned AR15's for decades as a civilian, having built AR15's as a gun builder and having machined AR barrels professionally, means I have, "incredibly limited experience" then I'm not sure what qualifies as being experienced with that platform?
LMAO, have to agree. Ispc style shooting, or actually serving overseas instead of role-playing on Canadian soil would count towards it hahaha.
You clearly do not understand what makes the Lockhart Raven 5.56 sufficiently different from an AR15 that it received a NR FRT entry instead of being classified as a Prohibited Variant. The ATRS Modern Sporter used a proprietary Receiver set but full AR15 internals, which ultimately resulted in a Prohibited Variant classification. The Raven 5.56 uses a proprietary Receiver Set as well as a proprietary Bolt-Carrier, Firing Pin and Charging Handle. This is because Samuel Lockhart decided to lengthen the Receiver Set by approximately 15mm, requiring those specific internal parts to be lengthened as well. Seeing as how the only thing that sets the Raven 5.56mm apart from the ATRS Modern Sporter is the lengthened internals, I'd have to insist that the proprietary Bolt-Carrier is the key difference that resulted in a NR classification for the Raven 5.56.....
Oh, and once you understand that the Raven 5.56 Receiver and Internals were lengthened to receive a NR classification, you will realize that would be pointless to add a standard BCG to the Lockhart rifle. The Carrier and Firing Pin would be 15mm too short to function in the Raven. I suspect that the whole reason the Bolt Carrier is skeletonized in the first place, is to offset the additional weight of the lengthened Carrier Body. But then what do I know with my limited knowledge of the AR15/M16??? LOL....
Honestly no I don't, nor do I care. Because I and many other red blooded Canadians still use atrs products because they are the best option still. Not like you run any drills or have any valid opinions on firearms that arent shot from a benchrest, go write another 1000 word review about another 10 pound ar180 no one gives a #### about lmao. .until the raven even comes close to it we still will keep using them. Live on your knees bootlicker. I'd rather die on my feet
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LMAO, have to agree. Ispc style shooting, or actually serving overseas instead of role-playing on Canadian soil would count towards it hahaha.
Excellent. Other than Basic and Battle School, I did not serve in Canada. I spent my entire service overseas.
It does interest me you categorize military service within Canada as, "role playing." I'm sure every guy who ever served in the CF would find that to be highly offensive.
Well someone is very impressed with themselves .... for no discernible reason.
Not red blooded enough to have put your life on the line and served your country though hey?
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Nice - you don't have a clue (as I suspected), so you immediately try to change the subject. You'd make a fine Lieberal with your penchant for deflection, but I digress. I ran plenty of drills during my 34 years as a professional soldier in the Canadian Infantry Corps, thank-you very much. I peripherally contributed to development of the CAF "Gunfighter Program", went through the program, and instructed it several times. I put those skills to use during two combat tours in Afghanistan, during the last of which I was seriously wounded. As I am confined to a wheelchair due to my injuries, you have correctly surmised that I now conduct my shooting from the bench. That said, I have a pretty thorough understanding of Stoner's internal-piston operating system and how it functions in extreme conditions. I dare say that I have far more experience "running and gunning" with a genuine 'assault rifle" in actual combat than you currently do (or likely ever will).
You talk big "Shrek", yet you have zero credibility and fail to demonstrate any regard nor respect for the experience-based opinions of others. That makes you a fool with dubious credentials in my view and I happen to be an excellent judge of character. I am now done with you, as you are clearly not worth my time. So you now get to join a few other 'worthy' candidates on my ignore list. It will be sweet relief from your immature drivel.
Boot-licker? No, you are about as wrong in that regard as you are about everything else. But that is par for the course, I suspect. Oh, and I don't live on my knees there Ace - I left both of those overseas along with most of the rest of my legs. But you evidently wouldn't know anything about self-sacrifice nor genuine life and death, as you are still apparently a child (at least from a developmental perspective). That's the real reason that I am done with you. Let's call it "inconsistent values and life-experience" and leave it at that....
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Based on the drawings provided on Lockhart's website, the new, lower-priced "Silver"-grade Lower Receiver uses legacy-style, single-sided controls based on a standard AR15 Bolt Catch and Magazine Release. Both of the the Silver Receiver halves appear to lack the lightening cuts/recesses of the Gold and Platinum version. So in regards to the controls and the lack of lightening cuts, the Silver-grade Receiver Set is definitely more simple than the Platinum/Gold Receiver Set. That would be why Lockhart can sell the rifles with Silver Receiver sets for less money.
According to the drawings, the Silver Lower Receiver features the same detachable Magazine Well as the Gold/Platinum version. The Silver model is therefore multi-caliber.
The proprietary parts of the Lockhart Raven 556 are (mostly) those directly associated with the Receiver Set having been lengthened by ~15mm as compared to the AR15. Those specific parts are:
- Upper and Lower Receiver
- Bolt Carrier (skeletonized to offset the additional weight of the extra 15mm length)
- Firing Pin
- Charging Handle
On the "Platinum"-grade rifles, the ambidextrous Bolt-Catches and Magazine Releases are also proprietary and specific to Lockhart's Platinum Lower Receiver. The new "Silver"-grade 5.56mm rifles will use the standard Right-handed AR15 Bolt Catch and Magazine Release.
On all grades of Lockhart Raven, the Take-Down Pins are a proprietary design. I recommend picking up a set of the Extended Pins and using them in place of the Front and Rear Take-down Pins. The Extended Pins will interfere with the ambidextrous controls however, so the Standard flush-mount Pins should be used to attach the Magazine Housing.
Aside from the above exceptions, all remaining parts on the Lockhart Raven 556 are supposed to be compatible with an AR15 equipped with a mid-length gas system.
- Upper and Lower Receiver
- Bolt Carrier (skeletonized to offset the additional weight of the extra 15mm length)
- Firing Pin
- Charging Handle
On the "Platinum"-grade rifles, the ambidextrous Bolt-Catches and Magazine Releases are also proprietary and specific to Lockhart's Platinum Lower Receiver. The new "Silver"-grade 5.56mm rifles will use the standard Right-handed AR15 Bolt Catch and Magazine Release.
On all grades of Lockhart Raven, the Take-Down Pins are a proprietary design. I recommend picking up a set of the Extended Pins and using them in place of the Front and Rear Take-down Pins. The Extended Pins will interfere with the ambidextrous controls however, so the Standard flush-mount Pins should be used to attach the Magazine Housing.
Aside from the above exceptions, all remaining parts on the Lockhart Raven 556 are supposed to be compatible with an AR15 equipped with a mid-length gas system.
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