New Moose Gun, 300 win Mag, 300 ultra mag or 325 WSM
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beretta boy
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He's not mixed-up ... just an old #@&* who can't make up his own mind.
Any of them will kill moose + a lot more too !
Any of them will kill moose + a lot more too !
none of the above. If I was building a custom, I'd be looking at a 358 Norma or 358 STA, a 350 WSM, or possibly a 9.3x62. If, for some reason, I felt the need to have lots of factory ammo readily available, I'd go 338.
Of the ones in the list, the 325 is the ###iest, except for the limited array of ###y 8mm bullets around
Of the ones in the list, the 325 is the ###iest, except for the limited array of ###y 8mm bullets around
I would not suggest the current 300 RUM configurations other than the sendaro and that's just too heavy for any walking. I bought my 300 RUM with the crap Remington tupper ware stock and got rid of that quickly and change out the 3200 Bushnell Elite to boot for a Leupold Mark 4. This cartridge does recoil and unless the rifle is properly designed to handle it well...well it just isn't going to be an accurate choice due to flinch. Mine now has the HS Precision stock, Limbsaver recoil pad and custom muzzle break, but tosses a 200 grain AccuBond @ 3200 FPS and prints inside 1/2" @ 100
If it were my money, I'd invest in better optics for the rifles I already own.
If I had to own a new rifle for moose, and I had $1,800 too spend on the rifle alone, I'd pick up a Sauer S202 Classic Synthetic, in 7mm Rem Mag, from P&D in Edmonton. I know this doesn't fit into your buddy's list of calibres, but it is a very fine rifle that is capable of the task at hand. P&D has it listed at $1,799, which is a steal compared to what they usually go for. They're ridiculously accurate and relatively light weight.
If I had to own a new rifle for moose, and I had $1,800 too spend on the rifle alone, I'd pick up a Sauer S202 Classic Synthetic, in 7mm Rem Mag, from P&D in Edmonton. I know this doesn't fit into your buddy's list of calibres, but it is a very fine rifle that is capable of the task at hand. P&D has it listed at $1,799, which is a steal compared to what they usually go for. They're ridiculously accurate and relatively light weight.
Wrong Way
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I shoot the 300 Ultramag in a 700 LSS, and I am extemely pleased. 200 Gr. partitions over 3000 FPS, 1/2"- 3/4" groups, not too heavy and ###y looking in that grey laminate. JUst like anyting else, it comes down to what you can shoot well.
The LSS stocks is a totally different unit compared to remington factory tupperware and you are right, it would make a noticable difference, but that configuration has been discontinued in the RUM configurations...
I was going to buy one in left hand when they were on closeout.
When it comes to moose I erk on the side of caution, the 300 WM is a very good caliber when the proper bullets are used. For ### appeal the 325 in a Kimber is hard to beat, light and powerful. I happen to think that the 338's are just right when it comes to moose but that's just me!
bigbull
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If I had $1800 to spend on a big game rifle, I'd buy a Marlin 45/70 and some ammo and donate the other $1000 to folks who are fighting for our gun rights including the NRA, this fight doesn't stop at our borders. Spending $1800 won't impress the moose anymore than a heavy loaded 45/70. ***See other post about believin' what the gun rags say you need!
Based on your options, 325 WSM provides the best performance for moose. 300 win mag is a longer range version of a 30-06. Which begs the question, if your not shooting over 200 yds, why pay the extra price in recoil and muzzle blast, just get an 06, which is a fine moose gun properly stoked. Benefits of a 300 win mag, which is a fine cartridge, are really evident at longer range.
300 ultra mag is a highly specialized, flat shooting, ultra long range caliber with lots of muzzle blast and recoil, even moreso than a 300 win. No real benefit to this caliber in my opinion at ranges under 400 yds.
325 short mag is in my opinion the most interesting of the WSMs, as it provides serious medium bore frontal area and sectional density combined with very flat trajectory, in a short action package. 350 rem mag does the same thing. recoil and muzzle blast are up there, but there is no free ride. All things being equal, I believe that medium bores do a better job of knocking down larger game than the 30 cals.
If I had the cash, I think the Browning BLR stainless laminate lever rifle in 325 short mag would be tough to beat as a moose rifle. That said, the 300 win mage in just about any configuration would also be a good choice.
In my view bullet choice and construction is much more critical than caliber. With premium bullets such as barnes TSX or Nosler partition, even low velocity calibers like 35 rem and 30-30 become decent moose killers at 100 yds or less. Likewise I have seen bargain priced factory ammo in a 300 win mag do a terrible job penetrating in moose broadside at 150 yds. Buy a rifle you are comfortable shooting and can shoot accurately, use quality ammo designed for what you are hunting, and you will do fine!
300 ultra mag is a highly specialized, flat shooting, ultra long range caliber with lots of muzzle blast and recoil, even moreso than a 300 win. No real benefit to this caliber in my opinion at ranges under 400 yds.
325 short mag is in my opinion the most interesting of the WSMs, as it provides serious medium bore frontal area and sectional density combined with very flat trajectory, in a short action package. 350 rem mag does the same thing. recoil and muzzle blast are up there, but there is no free ride. All things being equal, I believe that medium bores do a better job of knocking down larger game than the 30 cals.
If I had the cash, I think the Browning BLR stainless laminate lever rifle in 325 short mag would be tough to beat as a moose rifle. That said, the 300 win mage in just about any configuration would also be a good choice.
In my view bullet choice and construction is much more critical than caliber. With premium bullets such as barnes TSX or Nosler partition, even low velocity calibers like 35 rem and 30-30 become decent moose killers at 100 yds or less. Likewise I have seen bargain priced factory ammo in a 300 win mag do a terrible job penetrating in moose broadside at 150 yds. Buy a rifle you are comfortable shooting and can shoot accurately, use quality ammo designed for what you are hunting, and you will do fine!
