New Off Road Vehicle Laws in BC

kamlooky said:
Claim farmer status and go find yerself a yeller triangle sign.
Hang'r on the back and off you go........................................:wave:
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It's not quite so simple in BC
But I wouldn't be surprised if in the other provinces where thy have farmer friendlier laws
 
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It was already passed by the sounds of it when I saw it on TV, the only news article I could find on the internet at the time was the one I posted.

I for one hunt in ATV restricted areas from time to time, a plate will sure help with reporting the people who ignore the restriction no matter how many times you tell them
 
Brian46 said:
I have barely any traffic tickets, I posted that to show that I am not some "A hole" as you put it that deserves the attention he is getting when on the road. I have had many distatstefull interactions that have not resulted in an tickets, citations or criminal charges......Is that not experience?...

Sorry, I should stop posting my experiences because it will be turned into me being called anti police
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Nice backpedal. The last line pretty much sums it up. No one really cares if you're anti police. Just posting crap like the first post of yours I responded to is going to get you called on it. No amount of trying to muddle or backpedal is going to hide it once you post an opinion regarding a group based on your lady feelings rather than reality.

I do agree it sounds like this is a done deal. Frankly I'm not that keen in it for the reasons I've mentioned. Plus I don't really want to hang a licence plate on my ATV. It's a 2007 silver Kawasaki brute force 650i. Dual carbeurators, double round lights in front. It looks awesome and doesn't need a plate or more costs to operate off road.
 
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Brian46 said:
my experience doesn't qualify as experience to you so you call it backpedal?
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You posted:
all cops do today is hand out fines, not sure where you are finding these officers that are tired of even only doing that
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I have barely any traffic tickets, I posted that to show that I am not some "A hole" as you put it that deserves the attention he is getting when on the road. I have had many distatstefull interactions that have not resulted in an tickets, citations or criminal charges......Is that not experience?...
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If you're stating all cops do is hand out fines then stating you barely have any traffic tickets then no your statement isn't backed up by personal experience. In fact your claim proves the exact oposite of your statement. It's a simple case of logic here. If you had lots of tickets then your experience would be the police only hand out fines. That would be experience which backs up your opinion and would make sense for your misguided claim.

Backpedal was the polite word for what I think of your posts. I sure can't use the words honesty, integrity or even rational to describe them.

You made a stupid remark based on your hurt feelings rather than reality. Own up to it and move on. The continued backpedaling makes it worse not better.
 
kamlooky said:
I suppose one should consider stocking up on the Sami/Zuki kritters as for sure they will now
climb even higher in price?
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Not really. Other than forced registration at point of purchase. If you want one not registered then yes you should pick one up before this goes into effect.
 
Epoxy7 said:
You posted:

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If you're stating all cops do is hand out fines then stating you barely have any traffic tickets then no your statement isn't backed up by personal experience. In fact your claim proves the exact oposite of your statement. It's a simple case of logic here. If you had lots of tickets then your experience would be the police only hand out fines. That would be experience which backs up your opinion and would make sense for your misguided claim.

Backpedal was the polite word for what I think of your posts. I sure can't use the words honesty, integrity or even rational to describe them.

You made a stupid remark based on your hurt feelings rather than reality. Own up to it and move on. The continued backpedaling makes it worse not better.
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I would think with how smart you appear to be you would be able to figure out that the number of tickets written is not the same as on my record. If you would like to discuss specifics instances I would be happy to, but not in an open internet forum for reasons you have already touched on.
 
Epoxy7 said:
So? Keep your owners manual with the serial number, make model and colour. This goes on CPIC Canada wide as stolen. You don't need a licence plate which would be immediately discarded by thieves.

This is a money grab. First you pay for registration along with plates then insurance will be manditory. Insurance although it's not on a roadway etc. What does the insurance cover? I'm pretty sure wildlife federation etc offers liability insurance already.

As for the BS media releases... It will provide value and savings to the owners the same way water metres and smart metres will create huge cost savings for home owners (anyone having gone through either of those knows you'll pay more not less).
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So if you do not have registration how is CPIC going to pick it up??
 
imported a snowmobile from the usa and the RIV police wanted it inspected and was told to take it to canadian tire to have it inspected. took it there and they failed it because it had no turn signals or horn..... never did registar. the RIV (registrar of imported vehicels) phoned me many times to threaten me with all sorts of fines , so i told them to come get it , they never showed...
 
cheeseburgereatin said:
ya i love paying 400$ on insurance to ride my bike 3 times a year, in places where the only damage I could possibly cause is to myself and my own bike... such a money grab, I blame the the idiots who get wasted and then go quadding on may long and end up running over all their friends.
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^x1,000,000 although I do ride mine more than 3 times a year, maybe 3 times a week
 
Simple solution: Get an Argo. The ground speed is below that category where the regulations stuff at least here in Ontario(unless things have changed in the past few years): Such machines are considered to be comparable to farm equipment and only require a slow moving vehicle sign to be displayed when on a public road.

EDIT: And if anyone thinks otherwise out and about, find the nearest body of water and go across. ;):stirthepot2:
 
dgl1948 said:
So if you do not have registration how is CPIC going to pick it up??
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The same way it does for everything else. They manually enter it. Your registered car is manually entered on CPIC. You ride on lawnmower, boat, TV etc is manually entered when reported stolen. You need your serial/VIN number. Keep your owners manual which has your serial number. Create a computer list with serial # model, make and colour of all your valuables.

The only thing the registration helps is for them to pull up the info providing you remember your plate.
 
Brian46 said:
I would think with how smart you appear to be you would be able to figure out that the number of tickets written is not the same as on my record. If you would like to discuss specifics instances I would be happy to, but not in an open internet forum for reasons you have already touched on.
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Let me make this much simpler. In a detachment or department there there is a division of labour. Around 5 percent are engaged in traffic enforcement. The majority of the front line are general duty or Patrol. In most cases except for slow towns they are going call to call dealing with assaults, drunks, collisions (traffic rarely attends these), frauds etc. They rarely have time to give out tickets and only do so when there is a problem or if they are lucky enough to ever get time. The majority of a detachment are special sections and administration who probably don't even remember how to give out a ticket.

So mathematically your previous statement isn't even close to the reality. If you stated traffic cops then you would be correct. Those are most likely who you will encounter. Traffic doesn't attend the stuff I listed above for GD and they are a small percentage of the police force. But you didn't say that. Instead you labelled all police.
 
In order for CPIC to work in finding a stolen vehicle a data base of serial numbers has to be searched. When you license a vehicle the serial number is used and that data base of serial numbers can be searched.This is done by creating a data base through registration. That is how stolen vehicles that are licensed are found. When you buy a vehicle privatly from someone you do not run a check on the plates to see if there is a lien or it is stolen, you check the serial number. If you buy a vehicle that is stolen and register it you will be paid a visit by someone in uniform. Just ask the fellow beside me. He paid cash for a truck only a few months later to have the RCMP show up and take it. He is out a truck and a lot of cash. Simply entering the information into CPIC will not work unless you go around and manually check every vehicle that meets to stolen ones descrition untill you find the matching serial number.
 
dgl1948 said:
In order for CPIC to work in finding a stolen vehicle a data base of serial numbers has to be searched. When you license a vehicle the serial number is used and that data base of serial numbers can be searched.This is done by creating a data base through registration. That is how stolen vehicles that are licensed are found. When you buy a vehicle privatly from someone you do not run a check on the plates to see if there is a lien or it is stolen, you check the serial number. If you buy a vehicle that is stolen and register it you will be paid a visit by someone in uniform. Just ask the fellow beside me. He paid cash for a truck only a few months later to have the RCMP show up and take it. He is out a truck and a lot of cash. Simply entering the information into CPIC will not work unless you go around and manually check every vehicle that meets to stolen ones descrition untill you find the matching serial number.
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Yes it will be checked on CPIC prior to registration. But that has nothing to do with inputting it on CPIC. It might protect you from buying a stolen vehicle. However I knew of a couple people who bought rifles back in the long gun registry days and it was found later they were stolen. The registry didn't save them.

If police are dealing with something suspicious the serial number will be checked. Concerned the deal is too good to be true? Call the non emergency number and explain the situation. Have the serial number checked before you buy.

Now here is the other issue with why the registry doesn't save you. Trailers for example have continued to be stolen. They grind off the VIN and register them as ubuilds. So here you go to buy something and look it's registered!! It must be safe right? Wrong...

The registry makes it easier for police to check. It might make it less likely for you to be scammed. But ultimately it's designed to assign fees. That's about the only thing it's really good at. Forced compliance and tracking down who hasn't paid. The same way municipalities get you to register your dogs. The other benefits are secondary and not really a deterient for theft etc.
 
I just called ICBC to inquire about my Rokon
Because the Rokon is imported as a tractor It will be exempt from the new regulation
But we do not have the slow-moving vehicle act in BC so that is a no go
I am not a farmer so I cannot put farm plates on my Rokon-tractor
Like it or not the new legislation will cover all other off-road vehicles

Bottom line I am sure happy that I purchased a two wheel Tractor
 
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