New Ontario licences

Actually it's not paper. It's plastic, slightly heavier in gauge than the new $100 bills. Have any of you ever gone hunting in the US? Fishing in Quebec? Same thing as their licences. No different. Good luck trying to sway the ministry about their "bad decision". :rolleyes: Ontario is only about 10 years behind everyone else.
-Jason
 
thebuckhunter said:
Actually it's not paper. It's plastic, slightly heavier in gauge than the new $100 bills. Have any of you ever gone hunting in the US? Fishing in Quebec? Same thing as their licences. No different. Good luck trying to sway the ministry about their "bad decision". :rolleyes: Ontario is only about 10 years behind everyone else.
-Jason
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Yes it is plastic material, but IMO it is still likely to be destroyed, even in a protecting folder, wallet, etc. heaven forbid something happen.
 
Both local bait shops around here(southern ontario) have stopped selling fishing and hunting licences also...I was told there is more rules and regulations involved in licences than there are in the hunting and fishing regs:eek:
 
I talked to the lady at the service onario office here, and was told the company that prosses these new "improved" licences, and takes care of our tag draws is from tennessee. In addition my local bait shop said his licence printer comes from california, so when it malfunction he has to call california monday - friday 8:30-5:30.

like all other things duct tape is our freind, i resorted to duct taping one side of the "licence" to one side of my outdoor card, im gonna have a small book
 
How many times do you lose your wallet while hunting or fishing? What about your moose or deer or bear tags? I use a license holder (the ones with the big safety pin) and put all my tags inside. Haven't lost it while out fishing or hunting in 22 years.

-Jason
 
thebuckhunter said:
How many times do you lose your wallet while hunting or fishing? What about your moose or deer or bear tags? I use a license holder (the ones with the big safety pin) and put all my tags inside. Haven't lost it while out fishing or hunting in 22 years.

-Jason
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Never have yet. All I'm saying is thatheaven forbid something happen, on top of pi***ng around to try and get my tags replaced (probably unlikely), I now have to pay $55 as well to replace my licences which would have probably been fine if they were still stickers attached to my card (this only applies to a damage situation). Lost wallet and tag wallet well I have bigger problems, but I havn't let that happen yet. Not saying it can't happen though.
 
If you accidentally lost your outdoors card, you'd still have to pay all those stupid fees to replace your tags (stickers and card). There are no new charges, other than the damn fee increases.

-Jason
 
Yes but the chance of actually having to replace them increases significantly. I'm just ranting because I now have to carry a 2 inch thick tag wallet around with me, when the system we had before was just fine if not better. I'm not saying Losing my tags and licences is going to happen but you never know whats going to happen in the woods. I was unaware that the replacement fee was in place before, but the fact that they increased the fee for something more likely to be lost or misplaced or destroyed, can only be described as stupid or money grab.
 
The fee increases I was talking about was the annual price grab for the license itself. I agree that the chances of loss are greater now, but at the same time, now you can lose only 1 licence instead of all of them plus the card.

The nature of the complaints is expected when changes are made, but, if you've ever fished or hunted out of province (QC or USA), then these types of licenses or tags have been around for 10 years.

EDIT- The one advantage of the new system is to simplify the process for non-resident applicants. If you've ever sold fishing and/or hunting licences, you know what I'm talking about. The amount of paperwork involved in selling a non-resident hunting tag is retarded.

-Jason
 
thebuckhunter said:
The fee increases I was talking about was the annual price grab for the license itself. I agree that the chances of loss are greater now, but at the same time, now you can lose only 1 licence instead of all of them plus the card.

The nature of the complaints is expected when changes are made, but, if you've ever fished or hunted out of province (QC or USA), then these types of licenses or tags have been around for 10 years.

EDIT- The one advantage of the new system is to simplify the process for non-resident applicants. If you've ever sold fishing and/or hunting licences, you know what I'm talking about. The amount of paperwork involved in selling a non-resident hunting tag is retarded.

-Jason
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never acutally thought of it that way. I guess I was just assuming they would all be together anyways. Yes the bear outfitter i used to work for (B2 outfitters check it out) is mostly based on non-res. never delt with the licences personally but Cam complained about it all the time.
 
I just don't want to have to carry anymore cards and papers than I already have to. Right now I carry everything in a sealed, hard plastic, belt container about the size and shape of a large wallet. Sooo, there's my RPAL, watercraft operators licence, outdoors card, deer/moose/bear seals, hound certificate, hunting at night certificate (for coon hunting) and applicable gun registration slips (until further notice). I don't want to carry, and potentially forget/misplace anymore paperwork than I already have to. In fact, I'd like to be able to streamline all of it. Have the federal licences- watercraft and firearms- printed as one and the provincial paperwork amalgamated into one card that could be scanned in the field by the C.O.s. That would mean just two cards and applicable game seals- once the lgr is gone.
 
As regards the Canadian non-resident of Ontario purchasers; for the last few years those of us in Manitoba had to actually be in a place that sold licenses in Ontario to renew or buy one. Sounds like no problem as you are going there to fish, right? Not so if you go very early or enter the province from a remote location or there is no vendor where you are going. Non-residents of Canada could buy over the phone I was told. Makes sense but why couldn't we Canadian non-residents of Ontario. Well, 2+ years later they get their act together with the online system in place. There are very few vendors left on the list now, you can see the lists on the website. They don't need them anymore. Ask a former vendor how they feel about that. However, it is better for me in a couple of ways. One is that I can do it online. Two is that you actually print the license out yourself (they do not send it) and can save the PDF file. Lose it, just print another. Better yet, print five or six. One for the boat, one for the wallet, one for each tackle box. Plastic outdoors card in your wallet as usual. You can also choose to print these licenses very small so there isn't an extra book in your wallet. The idea of an extra folding "credit card" type license holder that attaches around a belt for holding all that boating, hunting, fishing stuff sounds good but you have to remember to take it. That includes your PAL if it's in there should you impulsively want to add to the herd or just buy ammo.
I won't hijack the thread by talking about the way we are treated by CO's when we are checked in remote fishing areas. We live in one country but you wouldn't know it sometimes.
 
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