New praise for the fat X62
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Yes, I agreee, with you, Buckrush, but already in the '70s, both calibers were a curiosity for some. What brang me to it (and I bet I'm not the only one) was the articles "The 9.3mm Cartridges, All but Forgotten" from D.C. Cole in the 1976 edition of the Gun Digest and the articles in "Big Bore Rifles and Cartridges".
Everybody should have a copy of Big Bore Rifles and Cartridges, mine is becoming well-worn..
yes I have both of those reference's, forgot all about them. Husky 96's in 9.3x57 were avaliable some what in Alberta about 20 to 25 years ago. Auctioneer Bud Haynes had some for sale at several of his auctions back then.
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If a fellow happens to be lucky enough to be drowning in '06 brass, has spent the money on the .30-.40 neck expander die, and happily anticipates the process of building good consistent ammo, that is loaded within the pressure limits in his rifle with his brass, then there's little reason not to convert .30/06 to 9.3X62. But your point is taken. If you have no .30/06 brass it doesn't make sense to buy it just so you can make 9.3X62 when Tradex and others sells Previ 9.3X62 brass, and if only the best will do Hirsch sells Lapua.
Well, I do have a healthy supply of both cases and I respect your point.
But still, the difference between a '06 and a X62 chamber (base measurement) is twice the spec, which equals a "field" measurement for the '06, which means that the unsupported base is twice the standard tolerance. While this sutuation may not be dangerous when a case is well suited to the chamber (tight fit forming), considering the newby reloaders and the amount of sizing problems they encounter - I think you will agree with me that over resizing is a current problem, the reloading forum is full of them - it can be hazardous when one tries to do so.
But still, the difference between a '06 and a X62 chamber (base measurement) is twice the spec, which equals a "field" measurement for the '06, which means that the unsupported base is twice the standard tolerance. While this sutuation may not be dangerous when a case is well suited to the chamber (tight fit forming), considering the newby reloaders and the amount of sizing problems they encounter - I think you will agree with me that over resizing is a current problem, the reloading forum is full of them - it can be hazardous when one tries to do so.
Dorian Gray
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And for those who don't want to wait for PR to get some in: http://www.irunguns.com/product.ruger-1-s-93x62-msprtr-22
I havn't crunched the numbers but I've got a feeling it'd be cheaper from IRG...
I just picked a rechambered 9.3x62 model 98 from Tradeex, very satisfied with the description, looking at this slim schnabel stock I am considering glass bedding as I notice quite a few are cracked and I really like the feel and look of this stock.
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No argument here. According to the blue print of the chamber reamer, my .375 Scovile has its chamber cut for the '06 head size rather than the X62, but the long X62 base to shoulder length is kept, rather than just being a .375 Whelen. Apparently the holdup right now is waiting for the front sight to arrive, then it should be shipped shortly thereafter. Not that I'm getting anxious or anything.
Yay the Whelen made a mention! 
Never had anything to do with a .375 Whelen, although maybe some have on these forums?
whats the general feedback from the big .375Whelen?As for the x62, Australia has even clicked a liking to the 9.3x62 for Buffalo and a lot use them for Sambar deer whilst "walking them up" , ammo prices are pretty reasonable too from what I gather.. but I don't need to look at that stuff, with my Whelen an all
cheers for the article.
WL
Never had anything to do with a .375 Whelen, although maybe some have on these forums?
whats the general feedback from the big .375Whelen?As for the x62, Australia has even clicked a liking to the 9.3x62 for Buffalo and a lot use them for Sambar deer whilst "walking them up" , ammo prices are pretty reasonable too from what I gather.. but I don't need to look at that stuff, with my Whelen an all
cheers for the article.
WL
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Yay the Whelen made a mention!
Never had anything to do with a .375 Whelen, although maybe some have on these forums?
whats the general feedback from the big .375Whelen?As for the x62, Australia has even clicked a liking to the 9.3x62 for Buffalo and a lot use them for Sambar deer whilst "walking them up" , ammo prices are pretty reasonable too from what I gather.. but I don't need to look at that stuff, with my Whelen an all
cheers for the article.
WL
The .375 Scovile/Hawk has the advantage over the .375 Whelen as its built on the 9.3X62 case so can take advantage of it's slightly greater powder capacity. I'd expect that any load that can be safely attained with the 9.3X62 can be equaled or even slightly exceeded with the .375 S/H when bullets of equal weight are loaded to similar pressure, due to the greater cross sectional area of the .375 bullet.
The thing to remember about hot-rodding the 9.3X62 is that when it was first produced the factory load was a 286 gr bullet at 2150 fps. It was later upped to 2360, and it's stellar 108 year reputation on truly big game was built on those velocities. I have used the '62 for over 35 years on big game, and have loaded it to a bit over 2500, but all my hunting has been with 270 and 286 gr bullets loafing along at around 2350.
No argument with anyone who wants to crank it up several notches, but it is easy to shoot 286s at 2350, and simply does the job there well.
It will keep us busy for the next few days....
Ted
No argument with anyone who wants to crank it up several notches, but it is easy to shoot 286s at 2350, and simply does the job there well.
It will keep us busy for the next few days....
Ted
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BigUglyMan
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Dr Wagner in his operating room. Wish I was there to give you a hand.
Ted, and the rest of you with lots of 9.3x62 experience
Just how fast do you think a 286 grain bullet can be pushed by the X62? How fast it can be safely pushed, and how fast if you were somewhat deranged and wanted to see what it would do just at the point of blowing up in your face. I'm asking this because a guy I know is telling me his buddy is getting 2700 with a 286 gr bullet. I think his buddy's full of it. What say you?
Just how fast do you think a 286 grain bullet can be pushed by the X62? How fast it can be safely pushed, and how fast if you were somewhat deranged and wanted to see what it would do just at the point of blowing up in your face. I'm asking this because a guy I know is telling me his buddy is getting 2700 with a 286 gr bullet. I think his buddy's full of it. What say you?
dgradinaru
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It's hard to believe 2700 fts out of x62 shell , maybe your friends buddy has the x64 shell. Out of the 62mm shell max would be around 2500-2550.
I know that 2700 out of the x64 is doable, and that he might have been mistaken about what cartridge his "buddy" was talking about, but the guy that was telling me this is a knowledgeable re-loader, and tells me bud is too. Supposedly used RL17, and said he was getting 2700 "safely" . I told him I didn't believe a word of it.
