New Range Gun!! Sterling R18!!

sharpsway said:
Well, this is going to be my second firearm purchase of the year I think, once the Zhukov model is out. Going to have to start squirreling money away again I guess, but it should be a beauty for 3 Gun.
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Here's what you are looking at. The Zhukov Folder will be available at the same time as the Fixed-Stock R18, so next month some time. The cost will be sightly higher at $2849 (versus $2699), to account for the Stock and Adapter. Zhukov Stocks alone cost $250, so $150 for that Buttstock and the Adapter is a bargain!


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I am not sure where you read that the R18 has residual "issues", but I assure you that nothing could be further from the truth. While the pre-production Test rifles did have some minor shortcomings, those have all been addressed in the forthcoming Production Rifles. A heavier Barrel, Adjustable Gas Block, stronger Operating Springs, a strengthened Back-Plate and Op Rods, a revised Barrel Nut, and several other minor changes have been incorporalted into the Prolduction gun to ensure improved accuracy and reliable function in all conditions.

Even before the various enhancements, I was able to fire over 1000.roundsl of mixed 5.56mm and .223 cal without a single stoppage attributable to the Test rifle (some faulty magazines were the cause). The Production R18 with its adjustable Gas Block will be as reliable as any other high-end semiautomatic rifle offered on the Canadian market and likely more reliable than most.
 
uAJollyRogering said:
would it be possible to change the adapter such that the stock would be more in line with the upper receiver?
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Lengthening the Rear Rail to provide another Slot on top is under consideration by SAI for future production runs. As it currently stands however, the production of Upper Receivers is well underway and those Receivers will have to be assembled and sold before any further production (eg. with a lengthened rail) occurs. So it won't happen immediately, if at all. In all honesty, despite what optical distortion in photos may imply, a stock mounted to the top slots of the Rear Rail is perfectly in line with the Bore of the Rifle. So there is no need for a taller Rail unless you want to get over top of the Bore-line to really get on top of recoil. While that may be desirable, it has not been deemed essential bearing in mind that most other offerings on the Canadian market have fixed Buttstocks. The Rear Rail is intended more to provide freedom of selection in choosing your Buttstock of choice - fixed, folding or otherwise. It was never envisioned as a means of getting over-top of recoil, although that is not a bad idea which is why the idea of lengthening the Rear Rail is under consideration for future production runs. As far as increasing Comb height for optics, the current height of the Rear Rail is ideal for my Low Power Variable Optics mounted in an American Defense Cantilever Mount. One can always select a Buttstock style that accepts Cheek-Risers if Comb Height proves to be inadequate....
 
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Bartok5 said:
I am not sure where you read that the R18 has residual "issues", but I assure you that nothing could be further from the truth. While the pre-production Test rifles did have some minor shortcomings, those have all been addressed in the forthcoming Production Rifles. A heavier Barrel, Adjustable Gas Block, stronger Operating Springs, a strengthened Back-Plate and Op Rods, a revised Barrel Nut, and several other minor changes have been incorporalted into the Prolduction gun to ensure improved accuracy and reliable function in all conditions.

Even before the various enhancements, I was able to fire over 1000.roundsl of mixed 5.56mm and .223 cal without a single stoppage attributable to the Test rifle (some faulty magazines were the cause). The Production R18 with its adjustable Gas Block will be as reliable as any other high-end semiautomatic rifle offered on the Canadian market and likely more reliable than most.
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Interesting. the bore line was my main concern, secondarily the majority of optic mounts are being delivered in standard AR heights these days, and as a tertiary concern the asthetics of the weird drop from the rail down to the level of the top of the grip seems sort of unnecessary disjointed.

i really like the look of the sig stock you have on the previous page but i imagine that is more difficult to get hands on these days.
 
tiriaq said:
Wouldn't that depend on the scope mounts being used?
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This is the big question, because the big consumer is the US more and more optics and optic mounts are being made with AR height as the default, so sure you could put a lower set of rings on, or a lower red dot and there's arguments for why that might be in some ways better. Or you can buy the cheek risers for the zhukov so this could be seen as having more options for configuration

It just seems that there have been a number of odd design choices that go against current industry norms. Not necessarily bad, just odd when put next to other designs in the same space.

I'm sure now that they're getting out in to the wild we'll see how other people run them and what works/what doesn't.
 
Bartok5 said:
...bearing in mind that most other offerings on the Canadian market have fixed Buttstocks. The Rear Rail is intended more to provide freedom of selection in choosing your Buttstock of choice - fixed, folding or otherwise.
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To be fair this rifle is fixed too unless you buy an adapter to fold.. so basically the same as any other offering. $90 buffer tube adapter turns any of those types of stocks into folders. $60USD buffer to picatinny adapter from Brownell's allows the handful of picatinny stocks on the market. Both are just the baseline for the rest of the market, just one accepts ~80%+ of the market by default.
 
Can someone help me with the .223 Wylde Chamber? Why not just chamber it in 5.56 Nato which will safely chamber both intended 5.56 and .223? The "new" Wylde hybrid chamber just gives me the willies. (I have concerns about reliability).
 
Oh that's pretty cool! I hope i still had one years ago where i lost it. It's still a pretty cool novelty to have and Im not gonna lie, i will prbably buy one when i can find one online.
 
Painkillers said:
Can someone help me with the .223 Wylde Chamber? Why not just chamber it in 5.56 Nato which will safely chamber both intended 5.56 and .223? The "new" Wylde hybrid chamber just gives me the willies. (I have concerns about reliability).
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its a marketing term 99% of the time.
Wylde chambers are hardly "New" iirc the chambers have been around since the 1960s your own misinfo is the only thing that should give you the willies
 
uAJollyRogering said:
would it be possible to change the adapter such that the stock would be more in line with the upper receiver?
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The people have spoken... We discussed this with SAI and they are going to move the rear picatinny UP so that it is far more in line with the bore. You won't be able to shoot the thing with the stock folded, but this isn't for A-Team re-runs regardless.

This change will be on the next batch of rifles.

JR
 
TSE JR said:
The people have spoken... We discussed this with SAI and they are going to move the rear picatinny UP so that it is far more in line with the bore. You won't be able to shoot the thing with the stock folded, but this isn't for A-Team re-runs regardless.

This change will be on the next batch of rifles.

JR
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Is the ETA on the next batch 4 weeks? Or the batch after that one?

Edit: This is basically what I was asking in better detail

Ustauk said:
So, please confirm, there will exist three versions of the R18 MK2:
R18 MK 2.0 - Pencil barrel and Non-adjustable gas block, with some upgraded parts to be sent later, currently being sold in limited numbers.
R18 MK 2.1 - Slightly thicker barrel for better semi-automatic accuracy, adjustable gas block, other parts upgrades (other parts to be sent to 2.0 users on availability). To be sold in February
R18 MK 2.2 - Moving of Picatinny/1913 stock mounting point higher to be line in bore. Release date once the 2.1 run is sold and another run is needed.

Is the above accurate? Thanks!
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TSE JR said:
The people have spoken... We discussed this with SAI and they are going to move the rear picatinny UP so that it is far more in line with the bore. You won't be able to shoot the thing with the stock folded, but this isn't for A-Team re-runs regardless.

This change will be on the next batch of rifles.

JR
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So, please confirm, there will exist three versions of the R18 MK2:
R18 MK 2.0 - Pencil barrel and Non-adjustable gas block, with some upgraded parts to be sent later, currently being sold in limited numbers.
R18 MK 2.1 - Slightly thicker barrel for better semi-automatic accuracy, adjustable gas block, other parts upgrades (other parts to be sent to 2.0 users on availability). To be sold in February
R18 MK 2.2 - Moving of Picatinny/1913 stock mounting point higher to be line in bore. Release date once the 2.1 run is sold and another run is needed.

Is the above accurate? Thanks!
 
TSE JR said:
The people have spoken... We discussed this with SAI and they are going to move the rear picatinny UP so that it is far more in line with the bore. You won't be able to shoot the thing with the stock folded, but this isn't for A-Team re-runs regardless.

This change will be on the next batch of rifles.

JR
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JR would you mind clarifying what the next batch of rifles is? is that what we will be able to purchase in feb ? thanks
 
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