New remington problems

[lejarretnoir]

All my newer remingtons do the same thing, if you compare your bolt face to that of another brand, you will notice that the firing pin hole on the remington bolt is chamfered and the others arent. The chamfer is allowing the metal on the primer to flow into it regaurdless of pressures.

Not having any new Rem 700's I don't see any chamfer. Thanks

 

[blargon]

I'll give you $400 for it.

Alright, I'll go $350 and not a dime less. Damn you drive a hard bargain...

 

[Eagleye]

Alright, I'll go $350 and not a dime less. Damn you drive a hard bargain...

I'll go one better! I'll take both those "defective" 700's off your hands for a total of $650.00 Eagleye.

 

[280_ACKLEY]

Quarterman is spot on....most (all?) of the new remingtons have a chamfer around the firing pin hole on the bolt face (must be their lazy azz way of cleaning up a poorly drilled hole).

In any event, it is downright annoying, but not an issue other than cosmetics (It pisses me off too, you're not alone).

I've had (and since sold out of annoyance) a few of 'em over the past few years!

 

[Calum]

You need to bush the firing pin hole. It's common in Remingtons and real common in Savages.

Or simply buy a Tikka instead.

 

[guntech]

....most (all?) of the new remingtons have a chamfer around the firing pin hole on the bolt face (must be their lazy azz way of cleaning up a poorly drilled hole).

If they are doing it intentionally the lawyers must have had a say in it... I would bet the reason is it causes no problems with factory loads and no problems with normal reloads... however with hot loads you would get primer leakage long before you would reach excessively hot loads ... and excessively hot reloads are not a liability problem for Remington. You could not successfully sue them if you blew a rifle up.

Just a thought...

In all the Remingtons I have used and worked on over 40 years I have never "had" to bush a firing pin hole. I have done so on request of a customer.

.

 

[Dogleg]

Or simply buy a Tikka instead.

The things that I don't like about my Tikka aren't as easy or cheap to change. Some, like the plastic parts don't even have a replacement available.

 

[lejarretnoir]

If they are doing it intentionally the lawyers must have had a say in it... I would bet the reason is it causes no problems with factory loads and no problems with normal reloads... however with hot loads you would get primer leakage long before you would reach excessively hot loads ... and excessively hot reloads are not a liability problem for Remington. You could not successfully sue them if you blew a rifle up.

Makes perfect sense to me Dennis. I'd bet on it as to the reason for the bolt face change. One less thing to come back at Remington.

Look at Savage. They alter their trigger to the Accu-Trigger. It was fine before if you knew how to adjust it, but the lawyers got into it. Some people may like the new Accu-Trigger, but you can keep the little swing gate, IMO.

Winchester has their new MOA trigger to satisfy Lawyer demands.

 

[Huntsman]

A buddy of mine has a one on .204 with the same primer crater. He contacted Remington and they responded with; "We designed it that way." So so much for that!

 

[Nine]

Cratered primers?! Not good! It's hard to reuse cratered primers!

 

[RickF]

My latest M700 is bad for cratered primers with all loads, not just warmer ones. Enough so that the fired cases have a tough time fitting into the RCBS type shellholders in my Rockchucker as the protruding primer binds. Otherwise it is a non-issue, especially since I can use my Co-Ax and that problem disappears.

 

[zimbu]

The things that I don't like about my Tikka aren't as easy or cheap to change. Some, like the plastic parts don't even have a replacement available.

Have you managed to break any of the plastic parts on your Tikka?

 

[mike shickele]

cratered primers are only a problem if they are a sign of pressure. They are only a sign of pressure if it doesn't occur with a load of mild pressure, and increases each time the load is increased; even then, you need to be watching for all other indicators as well.
Mike

 

[lejarretnoir]

Not much good for telling high pressure signs then and yes my Rockchucker will be a ##### to put shells in. The new Rem 700 has come to an end with me until they undo that latest trick.

 

[X-fan]

The nice thing about developing loads in a Remington is that you will see ejector plunger case deformation long before you see any serious primer issues.

In other words.....Don't be overly concerned with primer deformation in a Remington as long as you are watching the case head.

 

[bearhunter]

Just another bit here, the primer isn't backing out at all and everything else looks fine on that cartridge case. I kind of like the Remington/Savage/Ruger/Winchester added safety feature. It's a lot better than picking brass fragments out of your shooting glasses if something goes wrong. Like it or not, When you're mass producing anything, "If something can go wrong, it's not a matter of IF but when". The smiths on this board are right, it is a design feature and a good one. Those craters aren't sharp and there's no piercing evident as there would be with excessive pressures. I don't think there is a North American manufacturer that doesn't have the same feature.

 

[Gatehouse]

My LVSF 7000 does that with primers.

It's accurate and I get the velocity a guy with a .223 is supposed to get,so who really cares?

 

[Dogleg]

Have you managed to break any of the plastic parts on your Tikka?

No, but not liking does not necessarily depend on not breaking. FWIW I'm not thrilled by the aluminum bottom metal of the Remingtons either, but there are quality replacements available.