New rifle suggestion.

That rifle was only intended for the NL market, better tell your buddy to ship it east STAT.

I believe i have given you some compliments on that rifle before, and I will continue to do so every time you so graciously share the images.

Seasons Greetings all...

That rifle served me well in the field on a number of occasions. The truth be known, my longest shot on game was with that rifle. In that instance, under normal circumstances and using any degree of common sense, it's a shot I never would've taken. Foolishly,:redface: the reason I did was after the ribbing of my inexperienced hunting partner, as I had previously mentioned how well the rifle shot. A saving grace is he is very good at the judgement of distance. I finally agreed to one shot and asked him for a range. Gave it my best Kentucky windage;)'guestimate' and off of a good rest, squeezed off a round at the still stationary Doe. One dead Deer.
 
I sized up a brand new M70 Supergrade in .300 WM a little while ago and it did not come anywhere close to that beauty.

I am a sucker for fine wood stocked rifles, will have a fullstocked model sooner or later too.
 
I sized up a brand new M70 Supergrade in .300 WM a little while ago and it did not come anywhere close to that beauty.

I am a sucker for fine wood stocked rifles, will have a fullstocked model sooner or later too.

It is sweet and definitely caught my eye when I first saw it. I picked it up years ago, used, from Johnson Hardware and Sporting Goods in Naniamo. Thought at first it may have been a real winner, pre '64. As I recall, the serial number check indicated it had been made late '64 or early '65. I guess a pre '64 Supergrade, especially in 300WM, would be about as common as hens teeth seeing as the 300WM only came out in '63.
 
If you want one gun that is going to shoot bear and bison, and moose and sheep you are asking for a lot out of 1 gun. Bear depending on which bear and size really deserves a big, high sectional density bullet that penitrates. Even black bears above 350 pounds are a game changer requiring a bigger better bullet. I haven't hunted bison personally, but checking the bison section in "The Perfect Shot: North America" the author suggest bigger bullets like the .375. The biggest problem I see for what you are trying to do with one gun is shoot sheep, which normally a fairly long shot and perfect for .270. .300 wsm, and bears and bison that really need big bullets. Only small black bears can be reliably taken with .270 and .300 wsm. I learned the lesson the hard way when I shot a monster black bear with a .300 wsm, and had a penitration failure. For bears bison and moose, I would seriously suggest you look at th 9.3x62. Which was recommended earlier in this thread. Have to order gun, and hand load for it, but it's worth it. If you really want a gun that can do it all, look into .375 H&H, the bullet can be very versatile with a capacity to reach out further, and shoot the big bullets. To get the most out of this caliber you will need to reload. The Perfect Shot : North America would be a wonderful reference for you. Covers all NA game, shot placement, most appropriate calibers that are popular in NA.the author is Boddington. Good luck.
 
Safeside Brett needs a new gun: this is Christmas time ....

as we are on gunnutz and he is living in Yukon he cant have only one hunting rifle that is for sure ....

on another note the 300 wsm is a good caliber but i may suggest that you investigate the bullet you used more than the caliber and of course where the bullet hit your huge black bear ...i witnessed a bison taken by a single shot of 30-06 and i can tell that there is not a bear that will have love to be shot thje same way... not that im saying the 30-06 is enough on bison but in good hands the job can be done ...
 
I agree that 300 wsm is a good caliber. I have taken moose and bear with it.
The bear that shot 2 years ago was with 180 grain federal large game round, can't remember what the exact bullet was. I hit the bear in the right shoulder with a high scapula shot. A personal favourite, for a quick kill. So you are 100% correct the bullet quality and placement played a roll. I was also only shooting from 50 yards so that bullets was screaming at the time it hit an over 400 pound black bear. The bullet failed after passing through the scapula. Trailed blood for two days, until it was clear this bear was going to live. I hunt on my own land, so was lucky enough to to take this same bear this year. This time with 286 Barnes tsx in 9.3 x 62 at a sedate 2350 f/sec. Penitration was brilliant. Bear died in his tracks immediately. I very carefully dissected out the right shoulder and found my 30 caliber whole in the scapula and lead and copper fragments in the muscle and soft tissue between the scapula and the chest. There are very few times in your life that you get to confirm what happened when you screwed up hunting. This is one of those rare times. Bear skull is still frozen haven't taken it in yet, it would be pope and young, but I took him with a rifle, and not quite big enough for Boone and crocket. But most importantly, he tastes delicious, the experience of hunting him taught me a ton and made me a better hunter. Not to mention the cool story. That said, the pain of having wounded an animal, and presumed bullet failure, sent me on a massive search regarding terminal ballistics, bullet construction, sectional density and of course bullet placement. In Boddington's book he talks about black bears as almost being two different species the regular ones and the big ones. Knowing what, I know now- I wouldn't hunt big bears of any color with a fast light bullets at close range (180gn is light for big animals). And definitly not a bison.
But Med, I 100% admit, my own failings in putting together an inferior bullet, going to fast, at a big shoulder. I am very grateful for the lesson. I do think 300 wsm is a great caliber, and would suggest it is great for moose, small black bears <250 lbs, deer of all NA kinds, and probably perfect for long shots on sheep. Is best shot with high quality bullets, at distances over 100 yards. But that just my 2 cents after my adventures in bear hunting.
As to amazing shots with way to small a caliber, they definitly happen Karamjo Bell the most famous elephant hunter to ever walk the earth, favored using a .256 Mannlicher, and a .275 Rigby if you really know what you are doing you can use much smaller bullets. That said, most of us should just buy the right caliber, with the right bullet, and make good shots.
And yes, I would suggest Brett gets at least two guns, one for the big beasts, one for the small.
 
I agree that 300 wsm is a good caliber. I have taken moose and bear with it.
The bear that shot 2 years ago was with 180 grain federal large game round, can't remember what the exact bullet was. I hit the bear in the right shoulder with a high scapula shot. A personal favourite, for a quick kill. So you are 100% correct the bullet quality and placement played a roll. I was also only shooting from 50 yards so that bullets was screaming at the time it hit an over 400 pound black bear. The bullet failed after passing through the scapula. Trailed blood for two days, until it was clear this bear was going to live. I hunt on my own land, so was lucky enough to to take this same bear this year. This time with 286 Barnes tsx in 9.3 x 62 at a sedate 2350 f/sec. Penitration was brilliant. Bear died in his tracks immediately. I very carefully dissected out the right shoulder and found my 30 caliber whole in the scapula and lead and copper fragments in the muscle and soft tissue between the scapula and the chest. There are very few times in your life that you get to confirm what happened when you screwed up hunting. This is one of those rare times. Bear skull is still frozen haven't taken it in yet, it would be pope and young, but I took him with a rifle, and not quite big enough for Boone and crocket. But most importantly, he tastes delicious, the experience of hunting him taught me a ton and made me a better hunter. Not to mention the cool story. That said, the pain of having wounded an animal, and presumed bullet failure, sent me on a massive search regarding terminal ballistics, bullet construction, sectional density and of course bullet placement. In Boddington's book he talks about black bears as almost being two different species the regular ones and the big ones. Knowing what, I know now- I wouldn't hunt big bears of any color with a fast light bullets at close range (180gn is light for big animals). And definitly not a bison.
But Med, I 100% admit, my own failings in putting together an inferior bullet, going to fast, at a big shoulder. I am very grateful for the lesson. I do think 300 wsm is a great caliber, and would suggest it is great for moose, small black bears <250 lbs, deer of all NA kinds, and probably perfect for long shots on sheep. Is best shot with high quality bullets, at distances over 100 yards. But that just my 2 cents after my adventures in bear hunting.
As to amazing shots with way to small a caliber, they definitly happen Karamjo Bell the most famous elephant hunter to ever walk the earth, favored using a .256 Mannlicher, and a .275 Rigby if you really know what you are doing you can use much smaller bullets. That said, most of us should just buy the right caliber, with the right bullet, and make good shots.
And yes, I would suggest Brett gets at least two guns, one for the big beasts, one for the small.

What load are you using to get the 286 TSX to 2350? I could barely get mine to run 2000 FPS and I even tried the Douglas Loading Method (I was even so paranoid I took a buddy to the range with me that day), to no avail.
 
Weatherby Vanguard S2 if you like synthetic or sporter if you like wood in 300wby. I have the S2 synthetic. Outstanding rifle. Shot 3 shot 1.25" group at 300yds using 180gr Hornady SST's. You won't be disappointed.
 
I try to avoid giving out personal loads as they are worked up for my gun.
But if you look in the Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading, you will see loads for up to 2400 f/sec.
If you look in the Nosler Reloading guide you will see 4 loads that push above 2350.
So it's not a crazy load. But like all loads get there safely.
A longer barrel helps too. Hope this helps.
 
I try to avoid giving out personal loads as they are worked up for my gun.
But if you look in the Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading, you will see loads for up to 2400 f/sec.
If you look in the Nosler Reloading guide you will see 4 loads that push above 2350.
So it's not a crazy load. But like all loads get there safely.
A longer barrel helps too. Hope this helps.

Barnes are always strange behaved on the chrono side. so even if you take a load made for basic rn it may or will not work with a barnes bullet. that is exactly what BUM met up when trying to find a load for a nwt bison hunting ....
 
On that budget I would look at the weatherby vanguard S2 in .300 win or .300 Wby. Take that $200.00 that you just saved over the Tikka and put it towards a good scope.
 
The verdict is "choose what you feel comfortable with". If you're able to go shoot a few calibres your interested in using various rifles. Everyone will be of the opinion of what they feel would work best. Each person shoots differently so someone shooting a 325WSM may possibly have trouble shooting a 9.3 or 375H&H (hypothetical situation). Because I handload my choices would be 300WBY, 7x57, and 8x68S. Most of the suggestions in this thread a decent choices (the one animal which narrows the choice is sheep. Usually taken at distance so one has to keep that in mind.) You have to figure out what works for you keeping in mind availability of ammo, components, etc. The one thing that should not be skimped on is the choice optics, and mounts.
 
Well, looks like I'm going with a T3, stainless, fluted, 300 wm, after market bolt shroud and bolt handle in a B & C Medalist stock. Going to put my Zeiss Conquest 3 x 9 by 40 on it with Talley lightweights. Plan to shoot 180 or 200 g, depending what it prefers for everything and anything.
 
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