New Ruger Scout Rifle Caliber

[Mjolnir]

Ruger scout rifle now in 450 bushmaster:

http://www.ruger.com/products/gunsiteScoutRifle/specSheets/6837.html

 

[Camp Cook]

Oh yeah that is the rifle I have been waiting for minus that freaking ugly muzzle break...

MODEL NUMBER: 6837 CALIBER: 450 BUSHMASTER
Stock American Walnut
Front Sight Protected Blade
Rear Sight Adjustable
Capacity 4
Thread Pattern 11/16"-24

Barrel Length 16.10"
Overall Length 37" - 38.50"
Material Alloy Steel
Finish Matte Black
Barrel Feature Ruger Precision Rifle® Hybrid Muzzle Brake

Length Of Pull 12.75" - 14.25"
Twist 1:16" RH
Weight 6.6 lb.
Grooves 6
Suggested Retail $1199.00

Another option is the Ruger Ranch Rifle

MODEL NUMBER: 16950 CALIBER: 450 BUSHMASTER
Stock Flat Dark Earth Synthetic
Sights None-Scope Rail Installed
Barrel Length 16.12"
Material Alloy Steel

Capacity 3
Thread Pattern 11/16"-24
Twist 1:16" RH
Finish Matte Black
Weight 5.5 lb.

Overall Length 36"
Length of Pull 13.75"
Grooves 6
Suggested Retail $599.00

I have 1000's of .452 bullets on the shelf I would just need brass and dies to make one of these work not sure which one I would go with the Scout holds 4 rounds weighs 1lbs more the Ranch holds 3 rounds but is 1/2 the price.

 

[SHELL SHUCKER]

I'd go the American Ranch meself mainly because of the accuracy potential displayed on this platform in .450 on videos. If these buggers were around back in the 70's, I wouldn't have hunted & competed with my Rem 788 in .44 mag that served me so well for 20+ years.

Hardcast 300 gr. boolits would do well in in this beasty with a decent load & ye wouldn't have to push 'em much to do the job.

 

[Uisge]

Ranch all the way, what does the scout do the ranch can't?

 

[Brian46]

Ranch all the way, what does the scout do the ranch can't?

Scout you pay twice as much for twice as ugly?

 

[drift1122]

I'd definitely give the ranch a shot.

 

[Camp Cook]

I have 200gr - 250gr - 300gr - 330gr - 360gr - 395gr - 405gr - 550gr cast/cast gas checked and jacketed .452" bullets on the shelf.

The 550's are designed for the 460S&W and are to long to load in my 4.25" barreled 454 Casull Ruger Super Redhawk and my 20" barreled LSI Puma M92 rifle but they would work very nicely in the longer 450 Bushmaster case.

Even though this is a cool comb can I justify another 45 cal rifle is the big question, do I go with a entire new rifle or just buy a 15" 460S&W T/C Prohunter barrel?

I do have a thing for .452/.458 = already have 14" & 22" T/C Contender barrels in 45-70, one 45-70 T/C Encore barrel and a Marlin 1895GS 45-70 also a couple Contender barrels in 45 Colt.

 

[GMC403]

Ranch all the way, what does the scout do the ranch can't?

Adds:
- Control round feed
- 1 extra round
- Iron sights
- Wood stock (I'd prefer laminate)
- Adjustable LOP

After owning a scout and a ranch in 223, I would go with the scout version 100%

 

[hoytcanon]

Somewhat cool for specific applications, but if you have .45/70's in your arsenal, not much point, other than to utilize your handgun bullets... I'll pass in this one.

 

[Uisge]

Adds:
- Control round feed
- 1 extra round
- Iron sights
- Wood stock (I'd prefer laminate)
- Adjustable LOP

After owning a scout and a ranch in 223, I would go with the scout version 100%

I will concede the scout is a better rifle, but for an extra 600 bucks you could put that ranch in an MDT LSS with a nice adjustable stock, although I'm unsure what capacity you will get from an AICS pattern mag i'm betting you get close to 10 in an 10 round 308 mag. But I'm the opposite, I am not a fan of wood stocks. Still won't have the irons or controlled feed. Depends on what you like I guess. My vote is still Ranch.

 

[Brian46]

Irons are just extra weight and get snagged in the bush, crf makes no difference to me, actually it makes the operation not as smooth in most cases so a negative for me. Wood stock heavier so that is also a strike against. Mag capacity is the only real bonus, but not for the price and all the other negatives

 

[GMC403]

Irons are just extra weight and get snagged in the bush, crf makes no difference to me, actually it makes the operation not as smooth in most cases so a negative for me. Wood stock heavier so that is also a strike against. Mag capacity is the only real bonus, but not for the price and all the other negatives

They're only extra weight and inconvenient if you don't plan on using them. They would be more of an asset for me, and I can't stand hollow plastic stocks (granted they are lighter).

 

[Camp Cook]

I'm doing some thinking on this here is another option.

Ruger American Ranch rifle

MDT FDE LSS stock
MDT 10 round 308 win mags should hold 7 - 8 rounds (I'm thinking the MDT mags will also fit the Scout rifle)
MDT folding stock adapter
Magpul FDE CTR stock
Magpul pistol grip

 

[Brian46]

308 mags will feed 450 bushmaster?


LSS stock likely make the ranch heavier, not lighter

 

[Uisge]

308 mags will feed 450 bushmaster?


LSS stock likely make the ranch heavier, not lighter

Yes 7 or 8 rounds in a 10 round mag. And it will add weight but it's inboard and should balance well.

 

[Brian46]

Yes 7 or 8 rounds in a 10 round mag.

What rifle have you tried this in?

 

[madashell]

Ruger sure has a thing for ugly .....

 

[Uisge]

https://www.google.ca/amp/www.thetr...r/bolt-action-450-bushmaster-hunting-gun/amp/

I haven't tried it personally, but I didn't come up with the idea myself. There's pretty big list of cartridges that will feed from AiCS pattern mags. I called them 308 mags that's my bad, that just an option.

 

[Camp Cook]

I had first looked into the 450 Bushmaster when I first purchased my semi-auto Robinson Arms XCR-L eight - nine years ago.

I had uppers in 223 and 6.8SPC I contacted Robinson Arms and pushed that they bring out a barrel in 450 Bushmaster to complete my collection of coyote - deer - anything else barrels/cartridge combo's unfortunately the ejection port on the RA XCR-L is to small for the 450 Bushmaster case to eject or I would have been hunting with a 450 Bushmaster years ago.

Due to the research back then I've known that you just need to change the follower of a 223 AR mag or that the round will fit in a 308 mag with no changes because that was one of the design perimeters.

I've now sold my RA XCR-L and have replaced it with bolt action rifles in 223 and 6.8SPC so to add a 450 bolt gun also would be cool.

As to the weight of the LSS stock being heavier that's not an issue couldn't care less if it is or not.

My thoughts are geared more towards would I go Ranch = can shoot if for a while the way it is and if I decide one day to upgrade to the MDT/Magpul options go for it then or go for the much more expensive Scout that I would not do anything to.

Bonus is the Scout takes Scout Ruger mags that are interchangeable with MDT ten round 308 mags.

I'm looking for a functional bolt action rifle combo that compares in performance to my 14" and 22" T/C Contender carbine barrels.

Having a 16" barreled bolt rifle that will shoot the same kind of ballistics with a detachable mag would be a load of fun and would make a great hunting or camp defence combo.

 

[Brian46]

Remington makes proprietary mags for the 450 in the stanag pattern as they are all owned by the same group.

I will have to do some weighing when I. Pick up my ranch to see if the LSS is worth while