New Rugger 10-22 CLONE on the market

I love my Ruger 10/22 and have had many ammo types feed flawlessly through it at the expense of many a gopher. My rifle was bought new in 1991 and the fit and finish, components and look and feel were very good. I recently picked up a Butler Creek folder to start another 10/22 but when I went to purchase a rifle for it I found that Ruger has cheapened EVERYTHING. The early 90s rifle has turned into a plastic, cheaply made, roughly finished clone of it's former self.
If I can get a decent action and good metal trigger group from this new clone then count me in.
Do aftermarket barrels from 10/22 fit these?
 
Holleyman said:
I love my Ruger 10/22 and have had many ammo types feed flawlessly through it at the expense of many a gopher. My rifle was bought new in 1991 and the fit and finish, components and look and feel were very good. I recently picked up a Butler Creek folder to start another 10/22 but when I went to purchase a rifle for it I found that Ruger has cheapened EVERYTHING. The early 90s rifle has turned into a plastic, cheaply made, roughly finished clone of it's former self.
If I can get a decent action and good metal trigger group from this new clone then count me in.
Do aftermarket barrels from 10/22 fit these?
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I dont know about the barrels. And i agree 100% with your post,..my last ruger was crap! Plastic, plastic ,plastic. They are not the same nice gun they use to be.
 
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I don't give a damn who makes a rifle, or where...

...IF ANYONE would make a 10/22 "clone"(or rip-off - call it what you like) with a STEEL receiver, I would buy it.

Even if it cost $150 - $200 more.

The only place I've seen a steel 10/22 receiver was in the US and the company won't/can't export their product.
 
Tehoke01 said:
I don't give a damn who makes a rifle, or where...

...IF ANYONE would make a 10/22 "clone"(or rip-off - call it what you like) with a STEEL receiver, I would buy it.

Even if it cost $150 - $200 more.

The only place I've seen a steel 10/22 receiver was in the US and the company won't/can't export their product.
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Threaded barrel would be nice as well, take care of the droop issue once and for all
 
bearkilr said:
Trebor2880: Internet myth, Ruger isn't "rushing" production.

OK hometownhero, let me ask you this; if your local dealer has a Ruger 10/22 blued/wood and the Armscor on the shelf for the same price, you'd pick the latter? I doubt that.
Regardless, I don't really care, but I'm tired of the offshore clone crap and people praising its merits. The majority of it is total junk and should be boycotted for the simple fact they're too inept to come up with their own ideas and take precious jobs and income away from North American workers. 99% of the items from those countries are cheap clones of items developed by people with ideas.
I go out of my way to purchase items made in the US and Canada. That includes avoiding manufacturers who "farm" out their manufacturing to cut labour costs but are headquartered here.

Rant over. :)
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Yes I would. My last few experiences with a 10/22 soured me. Every one I have picked up since feels cheap, I am scared to buy one because my last one shot like crap. I also dont think you should have to spend money on a gun on top of what you already paid to get it to work or what should have been done at the factory.
 
hometownhero said:
Yes I would. My last few experiences with a 10/22 soured me. Every one I have picked up since feels cheap, I am scared to buy one because my last one shot like crap. I also dont think you should have to spend money on a gun on top of what you already paid to get it to work or what should have been done at the factory.
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I doubt you'd be happy, seeing as this is an admitted clone of the Ruger, not an improved version like many others. In other words, don't expect deburred or tight fitting parts.
Also, if you note on the ad of the Philippine gun distributor that JimDO posted, the receiver and trigger assembly are imported. I'd suspect China?

The attraction to the Norinco/Dominion Arms,etc. clones isn't their form or function, it's their price tag in comparison to the original, that's all. A Remington 870 Express is by no means a refined shotgun, but have you handled a Norinco HP9 or 780 Homeland Security?

I'll admit that the current 10/22's are not what they used to be, but that seems to be the norm for most guns nowadays. Credit lawyers for heavy triggers. Lots of owners complain about the plastic trigger groups, but I haven't actually heard of someone having an issue with one. The more expensive 10/22's like the Target or Deluxe models are still pretty nice, the latter can be had for under $400 all in.

And like others have posted, the money that needs to be invested to make it a solid shooter is minimal, all one needs to do is search the various internet forums and with even the slightest mechanical inclination one can perform wonders after folllowing youtube videos,etc. It worked for me.
 
An improved clone of the 10/22(steel reciever), at a resonable price, can only be produced by "Norinco".
If they were to put one on the market, they'd sell like their 1911's. Sure to be a winner!
 
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I do own a hp9, and love it, thanks!

I've also owned 3 or 4 10/22's in the past and can also agree they have turned to garbage!
The armscor m22 could very well be given the attention to detail the 10/22's have not been getting!
I for one would be all over this rifle if there was room on the old visa!
 
I'm on my third 10-22. Got me all of em made outta metal and wood. first one has a home in New Zealand, third one is somewhere in the prairies (traded it for a shotty 12ga winchester) and the second one is downstairs with a BC heavy barrel, Clark trigger, hole bored through the back of the receiver for breech cleaning, and epoxy-steel (Devcon) bedding of the first 3 inches of free-floated barrel.

"rugger" is a game, played in Commonwealth countries and a few others, sometimes called 'footie" but more commonly known as rugby union.
 
so by your reasoning Bearkilr,,,,you should also BAN MADE IN THE USA CLONES...get Bushmaster and the like to STOP cloning the Colt AR-15,,,,and what about all the US MADE 1911's,,,,so it's ok to clone if you do it in North America.????,,but what happens when like in this case when the offshore CLONE is BETTER than the original 10/22????,,i should buy the lesser North American Ruger just because i DONT want to admit the offshore copy is better,,,??? sorry,,,i buy the better unit wherever it happens to be made,,,IF North America can make a identical quality firearm and the same competitive price i will spend my money on the local product for sure,,,UNFORTUNATELY,,,the UNIONS will always KILL competitiveness for North American companies,,,now i have to go see if i can order one of these babies from Frontier...
 
I just ordered one. Frontier has lot so they say. No shame. Im all for keeping jobs in north america, but to compete we have to make a better product or at least equivalent. Unions are destroying our erconomies and forcing manufacturers to move overseas.
 
hootguy said:
so by your reasoning Bearkilr,,,,you should also BAN MADE IN THE USA CLONES...get Bushmaster and the like to STOP cloning the Colt AR-15,,,,and what about all the US MADE 1911's,,,,so it's ok to clone if you do it in North America.????,,but what happens when like in this case when the offshore CLONE is BETTER than the original 10/22????,,i should buy the lesser North American Ruger just because i DONT want to admit the offshore copy is better,,,??? sorry,,,i buy the better unit wherever it happens to be made,,,IF North America can make a identical quality firearm and the same competitive price i will spend my money on the local product for sure,,,UNFORTUNATELY,,,the UNIONS will always KILL competitiveness for North American companies,,,now i have to go see if i can order one of these babies from Frontier...
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This one is better than the Ruger 10/22? You've deduced that from one guy plinking and posting his "views"?

Various US manufacturers of AR's and 1911's are trying to improve and tweak the respective designs on a constant basis, they are by no means competing to make the least expensive unit. Often it seems they are doing the exact opposite; who can make the most expensive one.
Offshore companies try to see how cheap they can make a product, from proven designs that are largely illegally copied from a blueprint or original, while still making money.

I have yet to find an offshore clone that's better than the original and I don't expect things to change.

If you do decide to buy one, just be sure to top it off with a Leupold MK IV clone, I hear they're better than the original. ;)
 
Hitzy said:
I'd take any reviews by someone using a tire as a target stand with a grain of salt....
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So would I.
But if he was hitting that same little target @ 50 yards with old iron sights........................................


Taking it to the TRI-GUN shoot tomorrow, will let everyone there try it and see what they think.
Then you can have lots of reviews.
 
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lone ranger said:
So would I.
But if he was hitting that same little target @ 50 yards with old iron sights........................................


Taking it to the TRI-GUN shoot tomorrow, will let everyone there try it and see what they think.
Then you can have lots of reviews.
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I must say that this thread has gone bonkers. Be sure to post that review, I am quite interested in this "clone" and would love to see how it performs.
 
Holleyman said:
Very interested as well. Might go this direction instead of a Dlask or Ruger action
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mmhmm. I've been wanting a Ruger 10/22 for a very long time, but have not had any desire to buy a Ruger 10/22. I have a great distrust and dislike of plastics on my guns, especially when they are employed as a "cheapening" tactic. If the review is positive, Frontier will have an order from me.
 
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