New SK trespassing laws coming soon

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At the end of the day, this WILL NOT stop the retards driving around fields and damaging crops. We're talking about a province where taking back roads and alley ways because you are drunk is the way to go.

I'm fine which ever way this goes, I am not a landowner and this will not change the fact that I have access to private land because I asked. Have I ever hunted unposted private land without permission in Saskatchewan? You betcha, but I didn't leave a single trace, I don't open gates, I don't cut fences and walk along fields not through them. But this will not stop disrespectful hunters and poachers and they will keep giving honest hunters a bad name. I don't think changing laws and acts will do much as it is a cultural problem. In general, people are respectful, but there is a good portion of hunters/ATVers/Snowmobilers who are total f@cken dicks!

You want permission to hunt private land? Don't be a greasy f@cker, talk to the landowner (around HIS schedule, rainy days are best as they won't be working fields), give them booze, meat, the world's best maple syrup (from Quebec obviously), etc. Landowners grant me access to some of the world's best hunting grounds so I "treat" them and their land right.

I cannot stress this more; don't be a greasy f@cker!
 
Suka said:
Bizarre, is't it? Actually, insulting is a more accurate description.

Years ago in AB the only sign we put up was, "Close the Gate". Never any property damage, never any garbage. Times have changed.
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A lot of people are plain lazy and do not give a crap. They don't care about driving through crops or cutting cattle fences /leaving gates open. I have met some pretty brain dead hunters who should not have access to firearms let alone drive around grid roads looking for game with one.
 
You are only a criminal if you trespass. Its common courtesy to call for permission to be on private land and this law strengthens the position of landowners, forcing people to get their permission to use their private land instead of forcing landowners to fence off land, post it, and to maintain signage. Its great that you allow anyone on your land, but now with the new laws anyone on my land without my express permission is guilty of trespass leaving me open to take legal action against them. A few people getting busted for trespass may begin to deter crime. At least now people who are driving around can't claim ignorance of a posted sign, they have to actually get permission. As far as road allowances go, anyone, at anytime can be on the 66' of road allowance and there is nothing a landowner can do about it. The allowance is provincial property, set aside in case the province wants to build a road there.
 
I think we all wanna see a complete end to this BS, will strengthening trespassing laws prevent it??? Sure hope so.


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Well I must say I’m a bit torn on this issue. As a landowner, posted home 1/4, I do get very tired of road hunters and random shots. As a hunter, with kids who hunt, this will kill hunting in sask for all but the connected. The days of buying an rm map with names of owners, looking for the home 1/4, and popping by for a visit are long past. In my twp I look at the rm map -absentee owners from Vancouver, “sask 10092345”, “rock farms”, Etc. Etc... a city person who wants to hunt has to drive to an rm office, buy a (likely not current) rm map- during the few hours of the few days the rm office might be open, then try every phone book in Canada for “smith farms”?
That’s the way it is now, big corporations with no easy way to find them. Perhaps if the rm maps had a phone # for each owner listed... otherwise you can tap hunting and firearms ownership in sask as a loosing proposition. Not sure of the answer, but this isn’t it
 
Peace River said:
Well I must say I’m a bit torn on this issue. As a landowner, posted home 1/4, I do get very tired of road hunters and random shots. As a hunter, with kids who hunt, this will kill hunting in sask for all but the connected. The days of buying an rm map with names of owners, looking for the home 1/4, and popping by for a visit are long past. In my twp I look at the rm map -absentee owners from Vancouver, “sask 10092345”, “rock farms”, Etc. Etc... a city person who wants to hunt has to drive to an rm office, buy a (likely not current) rm map- during the few hours of the few days the rm office might be open, then try every phone book in Canada for “smith farms”?
That’s the way it is now, big corporations with no easy way to find them. Perhaps if the rm maps had a phone # for each owner listed... otherwise you can tap hunting and firearms ownership in sask as a loosing proposition. Not sure of the answer, but this isn’t it
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So you have your own place and expect people to respect the signs. Good so far.
I don't live out there but whenever there is a change there are folks who adapt, take advantage and come out ahead.
Then there are the lazy whiners. If your young hunters have a future they should be securing hunting ground now. It sounds like you expect the goobermint to give you a map to deer hunting nirvana.
 
Dukester said:
So you have your own place and expect people to respect the signs. Good so far.
I don't live out there but whenever there is a change there are folks who adapt, take advantage and come out ahead.
Then there are the lazy whiners. If your young hunters have a future they should be securing hunting ground now. It sounds like you expect the goobermint to give you a map to deer hunting nirvana.
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No, you are most assuredly not from around here. Pull up google, zoom in on any area of southern sask. Now look for occupied houses. Take the little measurement tool and measure 1/2 mile on a side. That’s a 1/4, 160 acres. Grid roads are 2 miles north south, 1 mile east west. See the rectangles? Those are 2 sections, 1 mile by 2 miles, 1280 acres. Now consider that most large corporate farms run between 20 and 100 sections, not continuous, bits and pieces here and there, all unobtanium contact info. They mostly don’t give a rats ass, in fact most farmers don’t care about hunters on anything but the home 1/4, as long as the few fence cutting, rut leaving idiots stay away. Unless they hunt... then they post.
so just so we are clear - no chicken hunting hedgerows, no goose or duck hunting, no coyote hunting, no deer hunting, on about 1/2 of the huntable, completely safe and non conflict land in sask.
Them chickens that you don’t get a shot at cause they popped at your feet - over the fence... pack the boys up and move on cause sask 1987483 farm is not in the phone book.
Hunting is different on the prairies, always has been. It seems the issue is “trespass” due to certain high profile cases lately... don’t think hunting should be eliminated due to the actions of a few. Where have I heard that lately?
 
Peace River said:
Well I must say I’m a bit torn on this issue. As a landowner, posted home 1/4, I do get very tired of road hunters and random shots. As a hunter, with kids who hunt, this will kill hunting in sask for all but the connected. The days of buying an rm map with names of owners, looking for the home 1/4, and popping by for a visit are long past. In my twp I look at the rm map -absentee owners from Vancouver, “sask 10092345”, “rock farms”, Etc. Etc... a city person who wants to hunt has to drive to an rm office, buy a (likely not current) rm map- during the few hours of the few days the rm office might be open, then try every phone book in Canada for “smith farms”?
That’s the way it is now, big corporations with no easy way to find them. Perhaps if the rm maps had a phone # for each owner listed... otherwise you can tap hunting and firearms ownership in sask as a loosing proposition. Not sure of the answer, but this isn’t it
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The big corporation might own the land but it’s the local farmer that rents it that controls access.

My advice is to grab an RM map, go knock on a few doors and talk with the locals in the area. Within a couple of hours you’ll have access to thousands of acres of land.
 
Peace River said:
No, you are most assuredly not from around here. Pull up google, zoom in on any area of southern sask. Now look for occupied houses. Take the little measurement tool and measure 1/2 mile on a side. That’s a 1/4, 160 acres. Grid roads are 2 miles north south, 1 mile east west. See the rectangles? Those are 2 sections, 1 mile by 2 miles, 1280 acres. Now consider that most large corporate farms run between 20 and 100 sections, not continuous, bits and pieces here and there, all unobtanium contact info. They mostly don’t give a rats ass, in fact most farmers don’t care about hunters on anything but the home 1/4, as long as the few fence cutting, rut leaving idiots stay away. Unless they hunt... then they post.
so just so we are clear - no chicken hunting hedgerows, no goose or duck hunting, no coyote hunting, no deer hunting, on about 1/2 of the huntable, completely safe and non conflict land in sask.
Them chickens that you don’t get a shot at cause they popped at your feet - over the fence... pack the boys up and move on cause sask 1987483 farm is not in the phone book.
Hunting is different on the prairies, always has been. It seems the issue is “trespass” due to certain high profile cases lately... don’t think hunting should be eliminated due to the actions of a few. Where have I heard that lately?
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And?

You don't own it you have no right to use it. How is that so hard for some to grasp?

Not to mention the hypocrisy of it all. You guys want to make rules on how and who can use an owners land. All the while foaming at the mouth about anti gun people wanting to make rules on what guns you can own, where you can use them an who can own them.

Shawn
 
You don't own it you have no right to use it. How is that so hard for some to grasp?

Not to mention the hypocrisy of it all. You guys want to make rules on how and who can use an owners land. All the while foaming at the mouth about anti gun people wanting to make rules on what guns you can own, where you can use them an who can own them.

Shawn

I don’t think you understand. Not sure where you pulled the last sentence out of. I make rules about my own land, and you can foam all you want. But in the long run if you loose hunters, you loose firearms. So sask has had steadily increasing hunters for 10-15 yrs. Ontario hunters are dying off, other than in the hinterland. Make it difficult or impossible to hunt, no hunters. Any hunters in Toronto? Vancouver? Marginalize firearms, minimize hunting, little left wing propaganda here and there and you get your wish, all the hunting land for yourself. Recurve bow only of course, with arrows issued by the RCMP, to be returned at the end of the hunt. As I said, I don’t know the best solution to the trespass issue, but killing off hunters from the cities is maybe not the best way to go.
And so far as “your land” goes, not sure where you been for the last 30 years or so, but you do know you are just renting it from the government? They call it property taxes, but try not paying them and see what happens!
 
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Peace River said:
You don't own it you have no right to use it. How is that so hard for some to grasp?

Not to mention the hypocrisy of it all. You guys want to make rules on how and who can use an owners land. All the while foaming at the mouth about anti gun people wanting to make rules on what guns you can own, where you can use them an who can own them.

Shawn

I don’t think you understand. Not sure where you pulled the last sentence out of. I make rules about my own land, and you can foam all you want. But in the long run if you loose hunters, you loose firearms. So sask has had steadily increasing hunters for 10-15 yrs. Ontario hunters are dying off, other than in the hinterland. Make it difficult or impossible to hunt, no hunters. Any hunters in Toronto? Vancouver? Marginalize firearms, minimize hunting, little left wing propaganda here and there and you get your wish, all the hunting land for yourself. Recurve bow only of course, with arrows issued by the RCMP, to be returned at the end of the hunt. As I said, I don’t know the best solution to the trespass issue, but killing off hunters from the cities is maybe not the best way to go.
And so far as “your land” goes, not sure where you been for the last 30 years or so, but you do know you are just renting it from the government? They call it property taxes, but try not paying them and see what happens.
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What a solid argument. I bet you feel entitled to stay in my house, since I’m just renting it from the government too. :rolleyes:
 
griffin86 said:
Ya because me not wanting people to trespass on my property equals a handgun ban. :rolleyes:

The mental gymnastics you do is insane.
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Same theory.

I don't like a few people damaging the land so ban all people from the land. Of course only the respectful hunters who do no damage now will ask permission. The guys that you never knew were there.

The criminals and vandals will continue to operate as before.

Then you can kid yourself about how you have gained so much respect.
 
skhunter said:
So criminal poachers would be deterred by trespass laws?
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Not a season open on August 15-17. So these are not hunters, they are poachers as Sk hunter notes. Nothing to do with hunting. So we ban hunters due to poachers? Why don’t we ban guns due to criminals?
 
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