New SK trespassing laws coming soon

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Peace River said:
Not a season open on August 15-17. So these are not hunters, they are poachers as Sk hunter notes. Nothing to do with hunting. So we ban hunters due to poachers? Why don’t we ban guns due to criminals?
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Sk hunter, I pm’d you, but this hi tech #### confuses me. Pm me back if you got it...
 
Peace River said:
You don't own it you have no right to use it. How is that so hard for some to grasp?

Not to mention the hypocrisy of it all. You guys want to make rules on how and who can use an owners land. All the while foaming at the mouth about anti gun people wanting to make rules on what guns you can own, where you can use them an who can own them.

Shawn

I don’t think you understand. Not sure where you pulled the last sentence out of. I make rules about my own land, and you can foam all you want. But in the long run if you loose hunters, you loose firearms. So sask has had steadily increasing hunters for 10-15 yrs. Ontario hunters are dying off, other than in the hinterland. Make it difficult or impossible to hunt, no hunters. Any hunters in Toronto? Vancouver? Marginalize firearms, minimize hunting, little left wing propaganda here and there and you get your wish, all the hunting land for yourself. Recurve bow only of course, with arrows issued by the RCMP, to be returned at the end of the hunt. As I said, I don’t know the best solution to the trespass issue, but killing off hunters from the cities is maybe not the best way to go.
And so far as “your land” goes, not sure where you been for the last 30 years or so, but you do know you are just renting it from the government? They call it property taxes, but try not paying them and see what happens!
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LOL

You mental gymnastics are hilarious.

You loose property rights you loose guns. Its that simple. Hunting is irrelevant

You want to hunt on farm land buy a farm or get permission

Shawn
 
skhunter said:
Same theory.

I don't like a few people damaging the land so ban all people from the land. Of course only the respectful hunters who do no damage now will ask permission. The guys that you never knew were there.

The criminals and vandals will continue to operate as before.

Then you can kid yourself about how you have gained so much respect.
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Except the "land" is not your land, it is privately owned

Shawn
 
“ property rights”
You don’t have any dude! Look it up for gods sake, your arguments might make sense in the US, but you HAVE NO RIGHT TO PROPERTY IN CANADA. None, zip, nada. Please inform yourself before spouting horse manure. The government can take whatever they want, any time, compensation or not. That’s the argument here, less firearm owners/hunters, less votes, more anti firearm laws, figure it out. Don’t want that highway thru your pasture, good luck with that. The fewer firearms owners there are, the worse we are going to get screwed. Please read the whole post and think about it for a while before commenting. There is no simple answer, and know that 99%+ of even city road hunters are decent, honest folk who just want to spend some time outdoors with their kids hunting.


LOL

You mental gymnastics are hilarious.

You loose property rights you loose guns. Its that simple. Hunting is irrelevant

You want to hunt on farm land buy a farm or get permission

Shawn
 
coyoteking said:
That’s completely irrelevant.

Why is it ok to have unfettered access to some types of property but not others? How is my cultivated field any different than a car or a house?
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Inconvenience caused to you. Someone using your car or house is inconvenient even if no damage is done.

Someone accessing your cultivated field is only inconvenient if they do damage.

If they pass this law will you charge anyone who drives onto your yard without prior permission with trespassing?
 
Peace River said:
“ property rights”
You don’t have any dude! Look it up for gods sake, your arguments might make sense in the US, but you HAVE NO RIGHT TO PROPERTY IN CANADA. None, zip, nada. Please inform yourself before spouting horse manure. The government can take whatever they want, any time, compensation or not. That’s the argument here, less firearm owners/hunters, less votes, more anti firearm laws, figure it out. Don’t want that highway thru your pasture, good luck with that. The fewer firearms owners there are, the worse we are going to get screwed. Please read the whole post and think about it for a while before commenting. There is no simple answer, and know that 99%+ of even city road hunters are decent, honest folk who just want to spend some time outdoors with their kids hunting.
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But what you're arguing is that you actually applaud this. Your government is trying to give property owners more rights, that would be you, and you're opposed to it. Having to ask for permission isn't going to lower the number of hunters.
 
Trimmer 905 said:
I wonder how some of these posters that don't believe in asking for permission would react if someone just pitched a tent on their front lawn and stayed for a couple of days?
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Like Sweden? It's actually legal there, they have even less property rights than we do. You can only stay for one night, but if you move your tent/camper even 5 ft., then it's legal. Anyone can pick mushrooms and berries in your yard.......but they can't hunt, different laws for that. Canada being more socialist than Sweden, that's a scary thought.
 
Trimmer 905 said:
I wonder how some of these posters that don't believe in asking for permission would react if someone just pitched a tent on their front lawn and stayed for a couple of days?
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First off, read all the posts. Specifically the difficulty in getting permission. Second, you live in a different environment. Pitch a tent and stay a few weeks on the south half, clean your campsite, I wouldn’t even know you were there. Wouldn’t care either, to be honest. Unless you’re a vegetarian eating my cows grass... then I’d expect a bottle or something, kinda like hunters!
 
bearkilr said:
But what you're arguing is that you actually applaud this. Your government is trying to give property owners more rights, that would be you, and you're opposed to it. Having to ask for permission isn't going to lower the number of hunters.
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Exactly....
This thread is quite entertaining to say the least.
 
I don’t see any deeds conferring absolute ownership of land to anyone in Canada.
What I do see are leases from the crown and patented mining claims with surface rights.
The old leases had a 99 year term and I believe the new leases are for 20 years.
This is in line with the Canadian paradigm of no enshrined property rights.
 
Suka said:
There's Lot's of crown land to hunt on. In AB other than on our own land we only hunted crown land. That way we could hunt moose every year and elk anytime we wanted.
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In many areas of Ontario not so much unless your a treaty carded aboriginal.
For example adult moose tags issued in the annual lottery in some WMUs are so few that the opportunity to hunt adult moose for non aboriginals is practically unavailable.
Hunting lodges in our WMU whose existence depends on the annual moose hunt have been issued “0” adult moose tags for their guests.
Yet the MNR continues to take our lottery application money even though the chances of success are next to nothing.
A money scam for want of a better phrase.
If they’re going to shut down the annual moose hunt just be honest and say so.
 
coyoteking said:
What do hunters do in Alberta?
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Like most places, the good ones ask, the bad ones don't.

I think one thing being overlooked in this discussion, is that there is not going to be more random enforcement than before. In other words, the landowner is going to need to initiate charges for anything to happen. What this change to the law will do, is make it easier for the landowner who's encountering problems to make that happen. For those landlords that don't have a problem with hunters on their land without permission, don't call the police, and nothing will come of it.
 
torontogungal said:
In many areas of Ontario not so much unless your a treaty carded aboriginal.
For example adult moose tags issued in the annual lottery in some WMUs are so few that the opportunity to hunt adult moose for non aboriginals is practically unavailable.
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Still learning the SK regs but looks to me like opportunities are similar to AB (only) in that if you're willing to go where tags are available you can hunt every year (North), but if you want to hunt within easy driving distance of a city you'd best be patient....Very patient.
 
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