New Smith and Wesson Bullpup SG The SW MP 12
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Copied the KSG and made it worse.
Loading firearm is nearly impossible, the loading port is undersized and the "load assist" buttons are a failure waiting to happen that can dump entire mag tube if pressed too far instead of partially.
Pump fore end shape will promote short strokes if anything goes between the spear point of the pump and the receiver, as well as between the rear of the pump grip and front of receiver. TIMESTAMP 5:39 (slings/ect)
Pump fore end has lots of screws that can be lost, bad design.
Pump fore end is too thick like Fischer Price made it.
Magazine tube selector button in a very unnatural position, should be reachable by trigger finger and is a snag hazard that may be pressed causing unintended switching of what magazine tube firearm is being fed from.
For the record I've shot the UTAS UTS15 and Keltec KSG's a whole bunch.....this S&W is #### to put it simply.
A real shame Covid ruined going to ShotShow this year I would have loved to make fools of S&W in person demonstrating all these failure points.
Loading firearm is nearly impossible, the loading port is undersized and the "load assist" buttons are a failure waiting to happen that can dump entire mag tube if pressed too far instead of partially.
Pump fore end shape will promote short strokes if anything goes between the spear point of the pump and the receiver, as well as between the rear of the pump grip and front of receiver. TIMESTAMP 5:39 (slings/ect)
Pump fore end has lots of screws that can be lost, bad design.
Pump fore end is too thick like Fischer Price made it.
Magazine tube selector button in a very unnatural position, should be reachable by trigger finger and is a snag hazard that may be pressed causing unintended switching of what magazine tube firearm is being fed from.
For the record I've shot the UTAS UTS15 and Keltec KSG's a whole bunch.....this S&W is #### to put it simply.
A real shame Covid ruined going to ShotShow this year I would have loved to make fools of S&W in person demonstrating all these failure points.
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Munkey1973
CGN frequent flyer
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- Regina, SK
The guy in the video tries way too hard to impress his audience.
He is a cool and knowledgable guy... a legion in his own mind. Just ask him, he'll tell ya.
Hate running to guys like this at the range ...... "Instagram Operator" types are annoying.
That aside.... piss on this shotgun.
I'd rather go with a tried, tested and true Benelli M4 over this gun and the Keltec garbage guns.
He is a cool and knowledgable guy... a legion in his own mind. Just ask him, he'll tell ya.
Hate running to guys like this at the range ...... "Instagram Operator" types are annoying.
That aside.... piss on this shotgun.
I'd rather go with a tried, tested and true Benelli M4 over this gun and the Keltec garbage guns.
84wh1
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
That dude from TFB really does know his stuff. If youve followed TFB.com for any period of time, you will have seen this.
Have to agree, James' attitude is all tongue in cheek, and meant in good fun. I actually think this looks interesting, would love to see them in Canada if for no other reason than competition is good, as are more options in our ever more options limited country.
Smith-and-Wesson-MP12-PRE-ORDER
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/2186286-Smith-and-Wesson-MP12-PRE-ORDER
Pretty much any dealer in Canada should either have some by now or have some on they way to them. I've seen several CGN sponsors listing or advertising them already. Firearms outlet Canada, Calgary Shooting Centre, The Shooting Edge, just to name a few. Pricing seems to be very similar everywhere.
Those three are all advertising as in stock and I've seen photos from at least one or two of them floating around out there. I think these have now started hitting dealers' shelves. A week ago, probably not though.
