New to me Walther KKJ-T

savagecanuck said:
Mine has the plunger just like the one in the picture from grauhanen. I did play with the screws adjustment in the bottom of the plunger and I couldn't get it any lower than 1lb. I'm going to try it the way it is before I do anymore fiddling with the rifle. Reducing the creep is the front screw accessible from the hole in the front of the trigger guard. This Walther has a medium weight barrel. It also came with the diopters and sling swivels studs. I removed the studs as they get in the way of shooting from a bag and front rest. It's a sporter weight around 7.5 lbs.
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Read the manual on the link I posted please :) There is a factory set on one of the screws (I forget which one off the top of my head) but you truly need to leave it alone :) I did not, and essentially locked up my trigger group to an unsafe condition.

When adjusting the screw inside the plunger, adjust it by 1/4 turns, and while the plunger is in the out position. If you try to adjust while plunger is pressed in, you can run the risk of stripping the screw as the whole assembly is under spring tension.
 
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Got Juice? said:
Read the manual on the link I posted please :) There is a factory set on one of the screws (I forget which one off the top of my head) but you truly need to leave it alone :) I did not, and essentially locked up my trigger group to an unsafe condition.

When adjusting the screw inside the plunger, adjust it by 1/4 turns, and while the plunger is in the out position. If you try to adjust while plunger is pressed in, you can run the risk of stripping the screw as the whole assembly is under tension.
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Thanks for the heads up.Mine is in the out position where I am going to leave it.Everything is working well I am also using snap caps as I never dry fire my rifles.
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She is a REAL beauty. I only have 2 Walthers, and they are my favorite .22 Rifles.

I was out in the gopher field last week shooting 100-125m, and doing quite well. It's almost sacriligeous to use fine target guns for varmint control, but I am sure Carl Walther would approve.

Of course, now that you are a member of the Walther club, you now will know the pet peeve of the rifle... there is no ejector in the bolt. It is machined into the receiver.

So sometimes an empty can hang up under the scope and cause a few seconds of swearing, especially when working on groups, and breaking your concentration.

It's just an idiosyncracy of the brand.

I see your scope and mount is high enough to not cause an issue. Mine on the other hand....
 
Again good too know! My older anschutz match 64 used to dump spent rounds in the loading tray and I just got used to flicking them out. So far it flings the snap caps. Unfortunately I have prior commitments this weekend and will have to wait to get it out. I read a lot of the manual, thanks. It says to run a dry patch down the bore before shooting. I think I have to set up the safety with the bolt out as shown in the manual. I don't want to fiddle with it to much and screws up something. I believe in trying it first. I never even removed the action from the stock as everything looks good.
 
savagecanuck said:
Again good too know! My older anschutz match 64 used to dump spent rounds in the loading tray and I just got used to flicking them out. So far it flings the snap caps. Unfortunately I have prior commitments this weekend and will have to wait to get it out. I read a lot of the manual, thanks. It says to run a dry patch down the bore before shooting. I think I have to set up the safety with the bolt out as shown in the manual. I don't want to fiddle with it to much and screws up something. I believe in trying it first. I never even removed the action from the stock as everything looks good.
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Taking the bolt apart is no great chore once you have done it a couple times. A couple detent spring/balls are the only things to really watch for (they are in the housing of the safety) they like to fly across the room.

While you are at it, check the firing pin when you have it apart. It is an unusual looking bit. Feel the edges checking for burrs, smooth out with 400 wet dry if you find any. Apart from that they are very easy to maintain, Check the barrel for a lead ring at 6 oclock position (common in Walthers) and clean that out if it is there.

I have been having decent luck with cleaning every 2K rounds, otherwise, follow your Preferred cleaning schedule.

I did purchase some wipeout, and used it one 1 trigger group that felt like it was too heavy. soaked it overnight and then blew out with compressed air and a lot of crud came out These triggers do not like a lot of lubrication, I think prev owner had a stake in an oil company. That fixed it :)
 
grauhanen said:
A trigger that is set by means of the plunger may well be, as Shakespeare observed, a rose by any other name that would set as sweet.
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Not to belabour the issue or hijack the thread, but to clarify for reference. The adjustment of the plunger changes the working range of the trigger or specifically allows the choice of two weights of pull range. It does not set the sears of the trigger or #### the trigger in any way as does a set trigger system. I'm sure even Shakespeare would see the distinction
 
dryfire said:
Not to belabour the issue or hijack the thread, but to clarify for reference. The adjustment of the plunger changes the working range of the trigger or specifically allows the choice of two weights of pull range. It does not set the sears of the trigger or #### the trigger in any way as does a set trigger system. I'm sure even Shakespeare would see the distinction
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Correct.
 
I don't mean to hijack this thread but: Does anybody know of any source for a bore guide for those vintage Walthers?

Thanks

Gilbert
 
Tank you diopter. I already have a bore guide for my Annie 54 action rifle. I'll try it.

Gilbert
 


The rod guides on the left are custom made for Walther KK series of the 70s and 80s vintage. The green guide on the right many of you may recognize .... Anschutz part #4401 rod guide for 54 actions. The Anschutz guide will do in a pinch but a guide that fits more snugly will do the job much better.
Looking on Possum Hollow's web site - they no longer offer a Walther guide , if they did.

edit: Thanks diopter for reposting the pic - here's another ! I forgot about Lowey's in Australia
 
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So the Anschutz 54 guide will fit. Great news! As a side note, for those interested: Before you guys posted, I had already sent an email to Eric Sinclair at Possum Hollow. He just answered and it seems he will do guides for the Walther KK and deliver to Canada...

Gilbert
 
Got Juice? said:
The plunger changes weight of pull by 50% Hardly a set trigger. A correct set trigger requires 2 actions in the mechanism. 1 action by either setting trigger #1, or by pushing the trigger straight ahead a la tikka T3, CZ.

Then using the second blade as the release, or pulling the main trigger.

In this instance you are incorrect.
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yodave said:
your source over on rimfire is mistaken, this is a dual range match trigger and a far car from a set trigger or even a double set trigger. A set trigger can be set from the shooting position without even having to remove the rifle from your shoulder or your cheek by either pulling the front trigger to set the rear and or pushing the main trigger forward to set the trigger........it's okay to be wrong, we've all been there once or twice
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dryfire said:
Not to belabour the issue or hijack the thread, but to clarify for reference. The adjustment of the plunger changes the working range of the trigger or specifically allows the choice of two weights of pull range. It does not set the sears of the trigger or #### the trigger in any way as does a set trigger system.
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Some further information to muddy the waters on the nature of the trigger on the KKJ-T. This information comes from a source usually considered reliable, which is the manufacturer.



The following are the "Directions for operating the adjustable trigger on the Walther Match Rifle". Note that the photo on the instruction sheet shows the same trigger as the KKJ-T trigger, complete with the "set stud," as Walther terms it.

This trigger is adjustable down to 5-6 ounces and 3 lbs, respectively.

To the left of the upper picture of the trigger are these instructions. "The set stud is fully protruding (see arrow). The match trigger is thus set for the lighter trigger weight." (Emphasis mine.)
To the left of the lower picture of the trigger are these instructions. "To adjust the trigger weight, turn the stud anti-clockwise (see arrow) until stopped by the stop lug. Use the screwdriver supplied with the rifle."

Perhaps the trigger is not a set trigger (if it is, in this case it would be a single set trigger). Nevertheless, it's hard not to take note of the terminology used by Walther.

And the OP might be interested and pleased to note that a number of posters on RFC who have used this trigger say that it does indeed go down to ounces, rather than the pound-and-a-half referred to above.
See h t t p://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=412384
h t t p://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=673305
h t t p://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6676425&postcount=8
 
Good to see there's a stop lug.i stopped turning it out figuring the screw May fall out and get lost before I had it lighter. Thank you Glenn.
 
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