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NEA does not physically manufacture anything anymore. Since they split with BCL they are mainly doing product design, consulting etc and licensing products they design.

Ryan

Thank you, Ryan. And as far as we know BCL will continue with NR AR10 production in Canada?

Rick
 
To be clear, as much as I wanted the NEA/BCL 102 I did not buy one because it was made by NEA/BCL. Poor QC and poor customer service in general was enough to make it not worth the risk.

Although the Troy 102 is essentially the same firearm it will be manufactured by a company that maintains a much higher quality standard. Having owned Troy products in the past I can honestly say that my concerns about their product are non existent.

I'm holding out for one in .243 and look forward to owning a Troy manufactured 102 once they are available.

I couldn't care less what's printed on the FRT. I only want a legible copy for my records.
 
Hey JR, thank you very much for the informative update, it is very helpful.

With NEA licencing Troy to use their IP for the AR10 lower, would you know what NEA has planned for their AR10 platform?
Licencing a competitor could be seen as a change in NEA's direction for the manufacturing of AR10s within Canada.
Just curious.

Rick

Rick,

Once BCL and NEA split, NEA became more of a consulting company, nothing more.

As far as I understand, NEA is not planning to ever get back into manufacturing. But IP has value in itself.

JR
 
There is currently no ETA at this time as the model I think they were basing it on, the BCL102B (5.56 one), was deemed to be restricted as an AR15 variant.

Ryan

You should update your front page then to reflect that the 556 is restricted now. If this is an NEA design I take it that the receiver is 6061 aluminum? If so, then I guess this is an NEA rifle with some Troy accessories, which I guess for the price isn't too bad a deal and makes sense how Troy can sell a 308 rifle only in Canada for so cheap. But my enthusiasm for the rifle has greatly diminished tbh.
 
You should update your front page then to reflect that the 556 is restricted now. If this is an NEA design I take it that the receiver is 6061 aluminum? If so, then I guess this is an NEA rifle with some Troy accessories, which I guess for the price isn't too bad a deal and makes sense how Troy can sell a 308 rifle only in Canada for so cheap. But my enthusiasm for the rifle has greatly diminished tbh.

I'll get that updated later today. It is 100% Troy produced rifle with no NEA parts etc. They are just using the design package to manufacture the lower but to Troy standards.

Ryan
 
There is currently no ETA at this time as the model I think they were basing it on, the BCL102B (5.56 one), was deemed to be restricted as an AR15 variant.

Ryan

That is too bad, really the only version I was interested in.

But now that we know it was NEA's design, I am not interested at all. I'm surprised troy would risk their name on a design from a company that doesn't have a good rapport with many of its Canadian customers
 
Guys,

I'll chime in here as I worked with SFRC and Troy on this;

The only part of a firearm the RCMP care about is the receiver. For the AR10, it is the lower.

To get this project to market and avoid the 12+ month wait for a unique FRT, the IP for a 102 approved lower was licensed from NEA to Troy in the USA.

Because NEA is the original manufacturer on record with the RCMP, it will also be the manufacturer. Which is separate from where it is manufactured.

The Troy 102 is not a branded NEA. It is a newly made, Troy manufactured rifle that simply uses the NEA approved TDP which has been approved by the RCMP. The changes troy made to the receiver were submitted to the RCMP and deemed to be within acceptable tolerances to the original and therefore, we could move things forward.

If anyone wants further info, please feel free to PM me, but neither SFRC or TSE are misleading anyone here.

JR


That makes sense, thanks for clarifying. Happens all the time in all kinds of industries. VW gave their engine design of the Touareg to Porsche, which in turn used it for their line of SUV’s, now selling it as Porsche. Common practice and it makes sense to use a known, or in this case, approved design, rather than wait. I trust that Troy has the experience and knowledge to address whatever small issues there may have been with the NEA design. I’m looking forward to it
 
I thought NEA was out of the firearms game after "Black Creek Labs has recently made significant strategic and operational changes in order to move into a new era of developing and manufacturing quality products for the global defence industry and the individual Canadian consumer.

One of the boldest moves that Black Creek has recently made is the decision to demerge North Eastern Arms Group."

http://soldiersystems.net/2019/04/01/strategic-and-operational-changes-at-black-creek/

:rolleyes:

Great news. BCL has already sent me the repair kits for my 102's. :dancingbanana:
 
But now that we know it was NEA's design, I am not interested at all. I'm surprised troy would risk their name on a design from a company that doesn't have a good rapport with many of its Canadian customers

Only the stupid people will lose interest in Troy’s offering because the design came from NEA. The design is solid, NEA’s execution not so much. Put the design in the hands of a manufacturer like Troy and you doubt it will be a winner? I’m not surprised that you’re surprised....that’s why we’ve all heard of Troy rifles but no one has ever heard of Brian46 rifles.
 
Only the stupid people will lose interest in Troy’s offering because the design came from NEA. The design is solid, NEA’s execution not so much. Put the design in the hands of a manufacturer like Troy and you doubt it will be a winner? I’m not surprised that you’re surprised....that’s why we’ve all heard of Troy rifles but no one has ever heard of Brian46 rifles.

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Guys,

I'll chime in here as I worked with SFRC and Troy on this;

The only part of a firearm the RCMP care about is the receiver. For the AR10, it is the lower.

To get this project to market and avoid the 12+ month wait for a unique FRT, the IP for a 102 approved lower was licensed from NEA to Troy in the USA.

Because NEA is the original manufacturer on record with the RCMP, it will also be the manufacturer. Which is separate from where it is manufactured.

The Troy 102 is not a branded NEA. It is a newly made, Troy manufactured rifle that simply uses the NEA approved TDP which has been approved by the RCMP. The changes troy made to the receiver were submitted to the RCMP and deemed to be within acceptable tolerances to the original and therefore, we could move things forward.

If anyone wants further info, please feel free to PM me, but neither SFRC or TSE are misleading anyone here.

JR

Thanks for the info!!
 
I must be the luckiest guy in the world. I have multiple NEA rifles and BCL rifles and the only issue I had was a feeding issue on my wife’s 22LR. Which they promptly fixed when I contacted them about it. I have pre ordered one of these and I am not worried one bit about the build quality of this rifle. Troy is a solid manufacture with one hell of a reputation for putting out top quality products and I expect nothing less with this one!
 
There is currently no ETA at this time as the model I think they were basing it on, the BCL102B (5.56 one), was deemed to be restricted as an AR15 variant.

Ryan
Hey Ryan,

5.56 version was deemed restricted and Troy are working to tweak the design and turn it NR or they are moving with the restricted version as is?
 
No.... Troy never ever ever owned or was partially owned by NEA or BCL for that matter.

Just because they used the AR102 as a basis for a firearm does not link the 2 or 3 companies in any way.

There is no such things as an AR102, that's merely a canadian thing.
 
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