New XCR-L from Wolverine - the barrel is not straight?

Removing the barrel certainly won't void the warranty, after all the firearm is designed to be a quick change barrel and caliber conversion. Give us a call tomorrow regarding the rifle. We will certainly figure out what is going on and make it right. It might be something as simple as the retaining bolt divot in the barrel isn't drilled center. it is that divot that won't let you "move" the barrel into position. Is the boresighter you are using one that goes in the chamber or one that slides in the muzzle end?

You also don't need loctite and those rifles certainly aren't a POS. Sounds like someone has been finding really old internet posts again.
 
Tuco Pike said:
XCR are great guns. End of discussion. However, since you admitted in an open form that you took the barrel off and tried to fix it yourself, then you voided the warranty. period. If you had not of monkeyed with it, you probably could have just exchanged it with no issue. Now? If Wolverine will do an exchange for you with you having to pay an additional 25 to 50%, that would be realistic. Since they will have to fix the rifle and sell it as used, because you monkeyed with it, they can't claim warranty from XCR.
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You really should let us worry about what we can warranty and what we can't....he hasn't voided his warranty at all. Also he posted in an open forum under and handle, not his real name, kinda hard to track that warranty via internet handles.
 
Hate to tell you this but laser boresighters from my experience are not that accurate especially the 25-30 dollar Chinese cartridge style ones and should only be used to sight 25 to 50 yards.I even have a high end laser boresighter ($200 plus) and it still suffers from pilot issues even though it comes with all kinds of machined aluminum adapters and O-rings.I just use them to get on target then finish sighting in the old way with good ammo or in the case of a bolt gun rest firmly then pull the bolt and sight through the barrel and compare to sights.I have more luck driving my black lab nutz with them then on guns.Hope this helps--Dieseldog!
 
Grumpy Wolverine said:
Removing the barrel certainly won't void the warranty, after all the firearm is designed to be a quick change barrel and caliber conversion. Give us a call tomorrow regarding the rifle. We will certainly figure out what is going on and make it right. It might be something as simple as the retaining bolt divot in the barrel isn't drilled center. it is that divot that won't let you "move" the barrel into position. Is the boresighter you are using one that goes in the chamber or one that slides in the muzzle end?

You also don't need loctite and those rifles certainly aren't a POS. Sounds like someone has been finding really old internet posts again.
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Great responses, sounds like you are a first class operation
 
dieseldog said:
Hate to tell you this but laser boresighters from my experience are not that accurate especially the 25-30 dollar Chinese cartridge style ones and should only be used to sight 25 to 50 yards.I even have a high end laser boresighter ($200 plus) and it still suffers from pilot issues even though it comes with all kinds of machined aluminum adapters and O-rings.I just use them to get on target then finish sighting in the old way with good ammo or in the case of a bolt gun rest firmly then pull the bolt and sight through the barrel and compare to sights.I have more luck driving my black lab nutz with them then on guns.Hope this helps--Dieseldog!
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I've found the same thing especially on rifles with flashhiders etc. I've found that alot of the time I still had alot of adjusting to do once I start shooting.
 
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Grumpy Wolverine said:
Removing the barrel certainly won't void the warranty, after all the firearm is designed to be a quick change barrel and caliber conversion. Give us a call tomorrow regarding the rifle. We will certainly figure out what is going on and make it right. It might be something as simple as the retaining bolt divot in the barrel isn't drilled center. it is that divot that won't let you "move" the barrel into position. Is the boresighter you are using one that goes in the chamber or one that slides in the muzzle end?

You also don't need loctite and those rifles certainly aren't a POS. Sounds like someone has been finding really old internet posts again.
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I'm using a boresighter that attaches to the muzzle. It's very accurate because the rifles that I have sighted (using real ammo) with red dots are dead on straight in line with the boresighter. Regardless of how I rotate the boresighter in the XCR, the POI of the laser is the same - to the right.

I really love this rifle, and hope to get this fixed. Thanks.
 
superlative said:
I'm using a boresighter that attaches to the muzzle. It's very accurate because the rifles that I have sighted (using real ammo) with red dots are dead on straight in line with the boresighter. Regardless of how I rotate the boresighter in the XCR, the POI of the laser is the same - to the right.

I really love this rifle, and hope to get this fixed. Thanks.
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contact the office in the morning. Contrary to what people think we don't work 24/7 lol
 
From my experience even cheap boresighters works adequately enough to be easily on paper at 50m. If you can't get the sight to line up at max setting either the BS or sight is broken. BS laser is a simple device, even my cheap $10 ebay one got me bullseye within 3 shots at 100m.

Biggest problem is most folks don't know how to sight a rifle. Still laughing recounting the dude firing 20+ shots out of his brand new RFB at 100m with zero hits.
dieseldog said:
Hate to tell you this but laser boresighters from my experience are not that accurate especially the 25-30 dollar Chinese cartridge style ones and should only be used to sight 25 to 50 yards.I even have a high end laser boresighter ($200 plus) and it still suffers from pilot issues even though it comes with all kinds of machined aluminum adapters and O-rings.I just use them to get on target then finish sighting in the old way with good ammo or in the case of a bolt gun rest firmly then pull the bolt and sight through the barrel and compare to sights.I have more luck driving my black lab nutz with them then on guns.Hope this helps--Dieseldog!
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Tuco Pike said:
XCR are great guns. End of discussion. However, since you admitted in an open form that you took the barrel off and tried to fix it yourself, then you voided the warranty. period. If you had not of monkeyed with it, you probably could have just exchanged it with no issue. Now? If Wolverine will do an exchange for you with you having to pay an additional 25 to 50%, that would be realistic. Since they will have to fix the rifle and sell it as used, because you monkeyed with it, they can't claim warranty from XCR.
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'Holiday Inn Express' much?
 
Grumpy Wolverine said:
It might be something as simple as the retaining bolt divot in the barrel isn't drilled center.
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The bolt "crater" on the barrel did look like it wasn't drilled center. When I examined the barrel, that was the thing I suspected was the cause. At least I hope so, and not a problem with the receiver!
 
SnoPac said:
'Holiday Inn Express' much?
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No... not sure what you mean? If you have a problem with your brand new car and take it to the dealer and tell them you worked on it and worked on it, taking this and that apart, they won't give you a warranty. Is that what you were directing your comment at? Not sure how a cheaper hotel has reference to it but hey...
 
burnaby said:
These replies are why you need to call WOLV and not waste time asking for free USELESS advice from the internet cause all you'll get are haters and misinformed. Sadly these aren't CGN newbies :(
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I think you were directing the misinformed at me. Not misinformed, just never bought an XCR before. Making the assumption that messing with the gun would void the warranty is not an incorrect one. In this case, it would seem that the barrel was meant to be messed with, so good on Wolverine for jumping in to help out the fellow. Sorry if everyone can't be as familiar with every single platform as others.
 
Tuco Pike said:
I think you were directing the misinformed at me. Not misinformed, just never bought an XCR before. Making the assumption that messing with the gun would void the warranty is not an incorrect one. In this case, it would seem that the barrel was meant to be messed with, so good on Wolverine for jumping in to help out the fellow. Sorry if everyone can't be as familiar with every single platform as others.
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This guys sucks the big one.
 
zombieprepping said:
This guys sucks the big one.
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Grow up.
Posting here on a Sunday night expecting an employee to answer is a bit ridiculous. No fear though, Grumpy to the rescue. Wolverine is a stand up company and a very helpful one at that, they won't let you down. For you others out there here's some advice - call the dealer where you purchased the product from. It's 99% of the time the fastest way to get an issue addressed. Like Grumpy said, posting here under your CGN handle is next to pointless. I've had an issue with a product purchased at Wolverine and I bet you guys didn't see me post about it. I emailed them at the time and got a quick response, and the issue was resolved promptly. The first step of a lot of people on here is to complain which does nothing only waste your time and the time of others.
 
1ShotKing said:
Grow up.
Posting here on a Sunday night expecting an employee to answer is a bit ridiculous. No fear though, Grumpy to the rescue. Wolverine is a stand up company and a very helpful one at that, they won't let you down. For you others out there here's some advice - call the dealer where you purchased the product from. It's 99% of the time the fastest way to get an issue addressed. Like Grumpy said, posting here under your CGN handle is next to pointless. I've had an issue with a product purchased at Wolverine and I bet you guys didn't see me post about it. I emailed them at the time and got a quick response, and the issue was resolved promptly. The first step of a lot of people on here is to complain which does nothing only waste your time and the time of others.
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The one and only time I had a problem with a product I purchased from Wolverine, I "CALLED" Samantha right away and it was taken care of. It wasn't even a defect, it was just a typo on their site (which is still there). The Badger FTE Muzzle Brake says minimum barrel diameter .875" when in fact that's the maximum barrel diameter you can have. No biggie, sent the item back and they returned my money. I ended up buying the Micro FTE Brake, it just threads on the end instead of over the barrel.
 
Grove said:
As everyone else has said, demand it be fixed, exchanged or full refund.

That is NOT RIGHT, an you paid for perfection.
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Well, you paid for something. You paid so you can take it into the bush. I would strip and reassemble and then take it back if it is still crooked. Maybe they added the keymod rail after and its that that's crooked
 
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