Get the Ruger, they're a ridiculous value. I'm enjoying using Brain Gallup's thread so don't mind if I share a No.1 stock I did and what you can do with those. It's a far, far better rifle than an H&R for really nothing more when you're considering a custom. Start with a good base is my small change, you're not going to build an Express rifle on a Savage Axis or Mossberg 4x4. I respectfully declined $5000 for the rifle below and before that almost sold it right after completion in the $4000s in a moment of weakness. Put your time and money into a No.1 and it will likely increase in value.