Newbie Question... thinking of getting into this gun stuff

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I'm 21, student from ontario. I'm considering getting my PAL license (i've read somewhere that RPAL and PAL are equal now or they got rid of one of them?)

Anyways, before i do any of this i have a few questions... I have a clean criminal record, but will me getting a firearm turn out to be a hassle at any point? i've heard people are subject to inspection at any time? Anybody have any inconveniences with owning a gun? If i am going on vacation or something do i just lock it in my house unattended or do i have to bring it with me? What if it gets stolen?

I am interested in owning a bunch of pistols (one i've always wanted to own was a desert eagle .50 ae) Is this type of gun even allowed to someone like me that has a RPAL/PAL license?

I'm willing to join a gun club and i mostly plan on using it for target shooting only. Anybody here have any negative experiences/hassles with owning a gun that wouldnt have occurred if u just didnt own a gun?

Thanks a lot,
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igetmoney
 
Enjoy, the PAL replaced the FAC, and the RPAL, its just a renewed PAL.
There was a pol , where you could own but not buy, my guess , another try at limiting the amount of firearms, ####heads they are.
Anyway thats gone.
I would hold off on gun buying for a few weeks following the license..to make certain you get what you want. Heck I think you can join a range first, and gather some intel on great gear:D
No bad about owning guns, just bad people , that for whatever reason hate , and their not sure what, they just want to follow the rest of the idiots.
 
PAL = possession acquisition license (non- restricted firearms)
RPAL = Restricted (not renewed) possession acquisition license (for handguns and restricted rifles)

You will need to pass both tests in order to obtain a Handgun, yes you can get a Desert Eagle in 50 AE. but I would start with a .22LR pistol and practice first. (both safety and aim)

I have had no issues with owning firearms, but great personal satisfaction from a wonderful hobby.

Take the courses, join a club and if possible, rent a couple different types and calibers of pistols before purchasing. Price out that .50AE ammo and you may change your mind about owning one.

P.S. There is no "mostly target shooting" there is only target shooting. The CFC will only allow you to target shoot or own a handgun as a collector, and one new handgun is not going to get by as a collection. Be careful and do your research.
 
as said above. you first take your PAL then you can take your RPAL (it could be same day (i think), but you have to pass then PAL first)

yes they can search your house at any time (provided your home) they cant break in to look at your guns. maybe if they thought it was in a crime and they had a good idea it was you and you didnt answer the door for 3 weeks.

yes you leave it locked up in your house if you go away. you need a permit to take a pistol anywhere, so it would be kind of a pain.

if its stolen you report it.

and you HAVE to join a gun club to own a pistol.
 
Ski911 said:
PAL = possession acquisition license (non- restricted firearms)
RPAL = Restricted (not renewed) possession acquisition license (for handguns and restricted rifles)

You will need to pass both tests in order to obtain a Handgun, yes you can get a Desert Eagle in 50 AE. but I would start with a .22LR pistol and practice first. (both safety and aim)

I have had no issues with owning firearms, but great personal satisfaction from a wonderful hobby.

Take the courses, join a club and if possible, rent a couple different types and calibers of pistols before purchasing. Price out that .50AE ammo and you may change your mind about owning one.

P.S. There is no "mostly target shooting" there is only target shooting. The CFC will only allow you to target shoot or own a handgun as a collector, and one new handgun is not going to get by as a collection. Be careful and do your research.
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:D Hey thanks, I should never guess:redface::D just looked at mine, looks like some stuff was taken away, like the xbow stuff ...other than that, looks like a PAL
 
thundergrey said:
as said above. you first take your PAL then you can take your RPAL (it could be same day (i think), but you have to pass then PAL first)

yes they can search your house at any time (provided your home) they cant break in to look at your guns. maybe if they thought it was in a crime and they had a good idea it was you and you didnt answer the door for 3 weeks.

yes you leave it locked up in your house if you go away. you need a permit to take a pistol anywhere, so it would be kind of a pain.

if its stolen you report it.

and you HAVE to join a gun club to own a pistol.
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The amount of misinformation in such a short thread already makes your head spin! No one can search your house "at any time". A firearms officer (and ONLY a firearms officer...this means not just a cop or RCMP) can request to view your storage but it is to be done at a time YOU specify.
 
Garlond said:
The amount of misinformation in such a short thread already makes your head spin! No one can search your house "at any time". A firearms officer (and ONLY a firearms officer...this means not just a cop or RCMP) can request to view your storage but it is to be done at a time YOU specify.
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thanks for the responses... keep em coming! that's pretty good news to hear. i would hate to be in the middle of something and someone knocks @ my door and asks to see my gun collection lol. how often does it happen would u think if u had to give a time frame?

also, someone said in the thread that u need a permit to take it anywhere. What does that mean exactly... if i was travelling from Toronto to my gun club i need a permit for that? If i travel from toronto to thunder bay do i need a permit? travelling from toronto to quebec?

thx!

any more info on if it ever gets stolen? how big of a pain in the a$$ would that be?
 
About transportation:

In order to transport a restricted firearm (e.g. any handgun) out of your residence, you need a valid Authorization to Transport (ATT).

After joining a gun club, the club will apply for your LTATT (Long term Authorization to Transport) which will allow you to take your guns from your home to any approved range in Ontario.

If you want to take you restricted firearms elsehwere (e.g. out of province or to a gunsmith) you will need to apply for a short term ATT.
 
Storage inspections are relatively rare (given the number of licensed owners).

The transport permit that was mentioned is called an ATT (Authorization to Transport). When you get your RPAL, you can apply to get a long term ATT, which will allow you to transport your handgun (or other restricted firearms) to an approved range, a gunsmith, or a gun shop. Each province is a little different, but most will set up the long term ATT to coincide with the expiry of your RPAL, so both are good for 5 years. The long term ATT covers all your restricteds to all approved destinations. The caveat is that you MUST travel in a reasonably direct route to your destination - so no stops at your cousin's farm on the way to the range.

A temporary ATT is also needed to get a new hand gun home or for out-of-province or other destinations not covered by your long term ATT. Temp ATT's cover only the specific restricted firearm that they were issued for, and only for the specific destination that they were issued for. These are not flexible. If you don't pick up your new gun on the day the temp ATT is valid, you'd have to apply for and obtain a new temp ATT.

You can go from TO to your gun club with the long term ATT. You can use your long term ATT to go to Thunder Bay with your hand gun ONLY if there is an approved range in Thunder Bay, you are a member or it is open to the public, and you actually INTEND to shoot there (if you end up not going that's not an issue, but if you never intended to go but were just using it as an excuse to take your hand gun to Thunder Bay to show your buddy, you better hope there's no evidence to the fact).

You can not leave the province with your restricted firearm without a specific ATT for the firearm and actual destination. You will need a legitimate purpose for requesting such an ATT or it will be declined. (legit purposes include competitions, trip to gunsmith, etc.)

Having a gun stolen is a big pain in the a$$ and often results in unsafe storage charges. I didn't say "often results in a conviction". The cops will lay unsafe storage charges and let the courts decide. Your responsibility is to ensure that you don't advertise the presence of the firearm in your home, secure it properly, and check on it on a regular basis, or have someone checking the property for you, if you're away for extended periods of time.
 
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Garlond said:
The amount of misinformation in such a short thread already makes your head spin! No one can search your house "at any time". A firearms officer (and ONLY a firearms officer...this means not just a cop or RCMP) can request to view your storage but it is to be done at a time YOU specify.
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I specify that the inspection can occur on July 30, 2045;)
 
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