Next Jim Zumbo? (David E. Petzal - F&S)

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I was thumbing through the April 2007 issue of Field and Stream and read a review of a new rifle from Thompson Center by David E. Petzal in the 'Rifles' Column. The review is titled: "A Bolt From the Blue" Page 25

The comment in the article that caught my attention is as follows:

"The cartridges feed from a three-round straight-column detachable magazine, and this is the only thing I can find about this rifle that is less then iconic. A detachable box is functional enough, but no one needs one except road hunters, and employing it for a rifle as elegant as this is like planting a big zit right in the center of Charlize Theron's forehead. I hope the people at T/C come to their senses and replace this abomination with a blind magazine or a hinged floor plate."

Quote: "Basically, a road hunter is someone who drives around in a car or truck with an unloaded gun to scout game. When the see what they're looking for, they jump out and quickly load their gun to try to get a shot. This kind of hunting is usually frowned upon because it's usually done by people who are hunting on land that they don't have permission to hunt on or poachers." (Assistant Editor F&S)

Is it just me or are all of these gun-snobs going completely off of their medication? So now a rifle with a detachable magazine is only the domain of poachers and the like?? :bsFlag:
What the %&#@??? :bangHead:
 
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Win94 said:
............since when are road hunters poachers???
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The term was clearly used derogatively AND I confirmed with F&S that this is what was meant.

Quote: "Basically, a road hunter is someone who drives around in a car or truck with an unloaded gun to scout game. When the see what they're looking for, they jump out and quickly load their gun to try to get a shot. This kind of hunting is usually frowned upon because it's usually done by people who are hunting on land that they don't have permission to hunt on or poachers."

BTW - In your experience have you found that there is generally a positive connotation to hunting North American game via truck? I have not.
 
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Win94 said:
................yes its frowned upon amongst many sportsmen. Its not poaching though.
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That would depend on how it is done and why. But again, just see the quote from F&S in regards to what THEY consider it and thus the connotation implied in the article.
 
pottsy said:
The term was clearly used derogatively AND I confirmed with F&S that this is what was meant.

Quote: "Basically, a road hunter is someone who drives around in a car or truck with an unloaded gun to scout game. When the see what they're looking for, they jump out and quickly load their gun to try to get a shot. This kind of hunting is usually frowned upon because it's usually done by people who are hunting on land that they don't have permission to hunt on or poachers."

BTW - In your experience have you found that there is generally a positive connotation to hunting North American game via truck? I have not.
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:eek: Here we go..........!:popCorn:
 
Ah! Thread hijacked already!

The point of my original post was to indicate that yet another sporting 'journalist' has on the rose coloured glasses, not to get into an ethics debate.

Just to clarify I think that in this case the Assistant Editor that confirmed my suspicions about the use of the term "road hunter' is not at fault as he was only 'educating' me. But the original author on the other hand... I think he has two potential faults depending on where you sit in the 'road hunting' argument. Possibly one for the negative connotation given to road hunting and one for the negative connotation to detachable magazines in hunting use.
 
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Road hunting is perfectly acceptable in many areas... both east and west.
With regard to the ethics of a detachable magazine... both Petzal and Field and Stream need to rethink their obviously twisted morals and self appointed ethical superiority!
 
Gatehouse said:
I far prefer a hinged floorplate for all my road hunting needs...
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X2 I think its faster.:shotgun:

Petzel needs to climb of his high horse I look forward to reading the letters to the editor in the next issue. On the other hand when was F&S magazine talked about on these forums last? He is in the business of helping to sell magazines and inflamatory comments always do that. Just like inflamatory thread titles get more views.:D
 
wetcoaster said:
X2 I think its faster.:shotgun:

Petzel needs to climb of his high horse I look forward to reading the letters to the editor in the next issue. On the other hand when was F&S magazine talked about on these forums last? He is in the business of helping to sell magazines and inflamatory comments always do that. Just like inflamatory thread titles get more views.:D
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Doh! :wave:

Personally I prefer handgun hunting from my motorcycle with hollowpoints and 15 rd mags.
 
i like detachable mags and if you've loaded a top loading rifle in -50 you'll know why

anyways real road hunters shoot out the window
 
ooooooooooohhhh boy here we go........
as for "road hunting" let me ask you moraly supior folks how do you suppose a person who is disabled either in a wheelchair or like me not enough to permit a chair but enough to hinder mobility into and through the bush is supposed to go about hunting? or should all the pyhsicly challenged hunters just stay home and give up hunting? when i hunt, i hunt within 50 yrds of where i can get my jeep, why because if somthing happens to me and my leg lets go which happens often i cant see my self draggin my body much further then 50 yrds with my hands or other leg. secondly if i fill my tag i now have to drag that animal to my truck through whatever brush i have taken it in. well given the average deer weighs what 150-200lbs and my prefered hunt of black bears can teg out around 3-400 lbs easy, so knowing that my leg and the brace that holds my leg from collapsing on it self Cannot support dragging that extra weight through the bush without failing, i keep my hunt close enough to my jeep to hook a whinch and a few lengths of rope to the animal and drag it out that way. otherwise i would not be able to harvest the animal from the bush and it would just rot there. so you tell me you holier then thou close minded individuals which would you rather see ?

edit to add: hinged floorplates are for snobby tutu wearing yuppies a real man hunt naked wit ha detachable mag :p
 
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Petzel tried to wiegh in on the Zumbo affair saying that we were too harsh on Zumbo and that he had said nothing wrong, right up until someone scaned a copy of an article he wrote supporting the Ass-ault ban in 1984 and posted it to his forum on F&S.

Petzel has shown his coulours in the past and continues to do so now.
 
What he said wasn't accurate..."no one needs one....", but I think it was more a case of his preference for blind mags/hinged floorplates shining thru than anything else. He needs to watch how he words things, but I don't think the torches and pitchforks need to come out just yet.
 
Amphibious said:
F&S is going to piss off a lot of customers me thinks
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Exactly, like the 5 million hunters in the US with Remington pumps and semi's. I'm trying to envision my 7600 with a hinged floorplate and I don't think it'd work very well..:rolleyes:
 
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