Nightforce clarity issues

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Ice-Pick

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Hey, I've got 2 N/F scopes (1) is a 12-42x56 NXS and (1) is the 12-42 B/R (Benchrest).
The NXS is a fantastic scope and i'm loving it. The scope works flawlessly and I shoot with it out to 1000 yds, very clear, easy to focus and adjust no probs.

BUT

I just got the second scope and mounted it on a short range rifle (6 PPC) and after looking through it I went to double check the NXS out again.

The Benchrest model is remarkably different. The clarity difference is huge, its like someone put spot lights on the target and moved me up 200 yds.

Night forces answer was " I got lucky" . The said they have a min. and max. measurement for what they expect and are willing to put their name on. They think I got one at each end of the scale.

Any one hear of something like this before?

I expected the two to be identical other than the functions and the click value for adjustment.

M.
 
Man thats really sad to hear! Nothing worse than gucci price for average quality.
 
I've read comments about Nightforce having a pretty big range in quality of glass on opticstalk.
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It depends on who those comments come from.I have read comments on forums that stated that Tascos were high quality scopes,and that Leupold used better lenses than Swarovski or Zeiss.Of course those opinions were not shared by many other posters.
 
Thanks rommelrommel, but just went through at 50+ pages at the referenced site and couldn't find any negative comments on NF. I'm sure if one looks hard enough, they'll find criticism, regardless of merit.

The majority of top FClass competitors in Canada use NF and we have had no complaints.

When it comes to reliabilty my opinion and that of many elite snipers is that NF is no. 1 in the world.

Regards,

Peter
 
I saw so many positive reviews on Nightforce scopes,that I just purchased a txs 3.5x15x50 myself.I haven't had the chance to shoot with it yet,but it certainly is a very clear scope.
 
I personally have no opinion on the matter as I have never used a Nightforce or most of it's competition, but the prevaling opinion on opticstalk seems to be that Nightforce glass is inferior to Zeiss (except conquest)/Swarovski/Kahles. Many rate NSX glass down around Elite 6500 quality. All seem to agree that the Nightforce however is bulletproof and has exceptional mechanics, and that its glass is more than sufficient for tactical applications.

Also read a post about Nightforce benchrest scopes being significantly brighter/clearer than NSX's... which may account for what you're noticing.
 
I have a BR 12-42 on my F-Class rifle, a 5.5-22 Varminter (Early version of the BR I think) on one of my .223's, and another BR 12-42 in the mail for my next F-Class build.

And I would buy another in a heartbeat. Pricey? Yes! Worth every penny? You bet your sweet azz!!!
 
I submit to you that the majority of the Nightforce critics out there don't know their "cardinal point" from their "paraxial ray" and to that end, I strongly suggest that users look for themselves before they buy. There is the natural tendency to justify to others why you made a consumer choice, and the more you spend, the more important that becomes.

Nightforce optics are superlative. Leupold also makes excellent scopes, but they are limited to 25X in the variable power selections. Zeiss, Swaro, Khales, and SB all make outstanding scopes too, but they are less attractive to competitive shooters because they either lack magnification, a suitable reticle, or their price is disproportionately high. (Very few benchrest or F-Class shooters like or use Mildots!)

Until someone can produce a credible objective comparison that quantifies resolving power, contrast, distortion, flare resistance and light transmission, (on top of the mechanical performance of the reticle mechanisms) I think it is safest to regard criticisms/endorsements as being highly subjective.
 
I have just bought a nsx 3.5-15x50 from peter, I had already several other quality scopes one being a leupold VX-L 50mm in 4.5-14 , and one other being a Zeiss conquest 6.5-20TTx50 , It is my opinion that the NSX scope outshines the others hands down ! I also have other scopes far more $ than either of these 3 the NSX is still tops with me. that's not to say the others are BAD scopes, the clarity in the NSX scopes is unbeatable. I will be selling off my zeiss and leupolds and others , and replacing all of my scopes with NSX ' s at some point. Just my opinion :)
 
peterdobson said:
There's an incredable number of stupid winners using NF and none using Zeiss oir Busnell. Go figure.
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Did I ever say anyone was stupid for using Nightforce?

All I've been saying is that there's a lot of talk that Nightforce glass is not the very best, and that may account for what the OP is experiencing.

It's obvious that you won't accept anything less than a Nightforce fanboy love-in...

And, it's obvious that Nightforce is used in Fclass, etc because it has very solid glass, exceptional mechanics, and all the features that those shooters want.

Just because a product may not be the best in class on one particular subset of performance doesn't mean it still isn't best in class overall.
 
As mentioned, I haven't seen any vaild criticism of NF, including monitoring benchrest central, sniper's hide, sniper's paradise, 6mmBR, fullborelist, longrangeshooting..and still none from this site.
 
jobbass said:
When you pay that kind of money, you expect consistency, whatever night force told you is strict BS.
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A noticeable difference does not mean the optics are crap. Are you looking at your optic or focusing on making the shot?? NF has proven their products to be winners with the vast majority of folks who require quality optics. They won't please everyone and probably could care less if they do. If you don't like it, don't buy it, but don't let your personal requirements cloud your judgment. Nightforce is a high end name with high end products.

TDC
 
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