Nightforce vs Schmidt and Bender vs Vortex vs US Optics

Um, yes, there most certainly are off-detents between illumination settings.

I'm puzzled by how many folks are casting negative opinions of the TT without having seen or operated one.
I would call it unease, in my case at least, the TT is 6K ( big amount), i all ready own many S&B PMll that did not have a single glitch and is back by a bullet proof reputation, while being the best, clearest and reliable scopes i have handled...

I almost ordered a TT but decided to wait...

Hopefully one day all little doubts will be removed and i will own one...

For now my scopes are still in pole position, might as well enjoy the ride... JP.
 
6 months ago the TT was 4400. So back then it was a bit more than SB. Had I known 100% on a delivery date. I would have never bought the PMII.
 
Agreed, only real way we can sort out which one is best!:stirthepot2:

I think the simplest answer is to buy what you can afford that:
1) makes you shoot better;
2) makes you think you shoot better;
3)makes your manhood feel bigger.

For some guys this might be a Millet, for others it might be a TT.

I don't own a TT, but I have S&B and NF....


I'll answer first, and honestly:

1. They absolutely HELP me shoot better. Only I can MAKE myself shoot better. Having the right tool for the job helps.

2. They do that to. I'm more confident and smooth when i'm behind good equipment - not just shooting, anything in life. My welder, my brewery, my saddle, our acreage tractor, my MacBook Air, etc etc....

3. I have no interest in improving the length of my manhood around you peckerheads....hahahahahahahha... lol. Now, if Lovie were around....maybe!!! I will admit that I have a "the best" complex like Caramel and Bsand. Don't confuse this with "more money than brains" - cause I'd gladly take an S&B for 800$!!! I will however wait until I can afford something that I've decided is the best for me.

Next debate: Cirrus SR22 vs. The Cesana TT....

Hahahahahahahha (I don't own either)
 
I find it really really nice knowing YOUR the problem, and not your equipment. Makes a novice shooter that much more confident, perfect example is myself, I have never shot over 500 yards but for tomorrow I've scouted out 800m clearing on crownland. I wouldn't have dreamt of going that far with my rem 700 with a zeiss or sb on top. Now with my DT and TT on top I have more confidence in myself and equipment. I've got 12" discs that I will be attempting to hit at 800m, which is almost double the distance I've ever shot.
 
Unless you are a world class shooter, owning top shelf optics will definitly improve the end result... JP.
 
Good for you for pushing yourself. I'd be right there with you if you weren't 2 provinces away!!! You have to be the "fastest progressor" on here....

ps - your S&B would've gotten you to 800, easy......or a vortex, or a bushnell.....now 1800, different story.
 
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Um, yes, there most certainly are off-detents between illumination settings.

I'm puzzled by how many folks are casting negative opinions of the TT without having seen or operated one.

Another joke that wasn't caught.

Guess I should stop being sarcastic. Who even uses illuminated reticles here in Canada or precision/long range.

I've never even installed my battery for the damn thing.

I do however use it in 3G, but that's different.
 
Good for you for pushing yourself. I'd be right there with you if you weren't 2 provinces away!!! You have to be the "fastest progressor" on here....

ps - your S&B wouldn't gotten you to 800, easy......or a vortex, or a bushnell.....now 1800, different story.

I was more so concerned about rifle than glass. The rifle. Was consistently inconsistent, 1/2" group, then nothing tighter than 3/4" closer to 1" than 1/2.
 
I think everyone really likes reliable scopes with lots of elevation, holds zero ,are crystal clear, bright and have a good warranty.

Those qualities really limit the field.

I have some of those expensive scopes and when I can't afford it I get Sightron SIII which in my opinion gets you 90% or more of the very top end but for about 1/3 the cost( just my opinion , yours may well differ).
 
I think everyone really likes reliable scopes with lots of elevation, holds zero ,are crystal clear, bright and have a good warranty.

Those qualities really limit the field.

I have some of those expensive scopes and when I can't afford it I get Sightron SIII which in my opinion gets you 90% or more of the very top end but for about 1/3 the cost( just my opinion , yours may well differ).

I own a few Sightron Slll and they are very good scopes and a great value, the trick (I did it a couple of times)is NOT look true the Sightron and the S&B back to back in the same minute at the same target... JP.:)
 
I own a few Sightron Slll and they are very good scopes and a great value, the trick (I did it a couple of times)is NOT look true the Sightron and the S&B back to back in the same minute at the same target... JP.:)

I found the same thing with my Sightron and then a NF. Sure can tell they are "different".
 
I was more so concerned about rifle than glass. The rifle. Was consistently inconsistent, 1/2" group, then nothing tighter than 3/4" closer to 1" than 1/2.

Absolutely no offence meant here, but yours is a "working gun" meant for easier carry and functional accuracy....(ie killin folk).

I hope you can eek more out of it, mostly so I can justify in someday!!!
 
I found the same thing with my Sightron and then a NF. Sure can tell they are "different".


We all see things differently. SO I could see one person liking one optic over another and vice versa.
I have both Nightforce and Sightron . I find the Sightron SIII on par( optically) with the Nightforce BR and a little better than the NSX. Optically speaking I actually prefer the Sightron overall compared to the Nightforce. The Nightforce seems to be built better but I have never had a problem with the Sightron SIIIs I have owned. I don't think either one would be considered as being optical wonders. Now, I do hear the Nightforce ATACR has very good glass but then again the price is that of a Schmidt and Bender.
Right now I have in front of me a Hensoldt 3.5-26x56. This is one exceptional scope.
 
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Absolutely no offence meant here, but yours is a "working gun" meant for easier carry and functional accuracy....(ie killin folk).

I hope you can eek more out of it, mostly so I can justify in someday!!!
I was talking about the rem 700, the dta is a laser. I was just on some crown land, hitting 500 yards all day long. Well for a hour but you know what I mean.
 
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