No.4 Mk4 (.308) Australian Repro for $700
- Thread starter BadgerDog
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Ardent said:I think the features rock, and the price is smoking, sub $700 is a bloody bargain for a mag fed .308 with these features and wood this nice! To those second guessing it, are you kidding me???Oh well, more for me.
That's true, but one will pay $700 today for new gun that will sell for $600 next year. These are like buying a car and they'll depreciate somewhat right off the lot ......
An original historic milsurp will appreciate yearly and as less are available due to classic supply laws, some may jump dramatically. The beauty of a milsurp is that you can have your cake and eat it too. One can shoot and enjoy a milsurp like the new rifles, but also see them go up in value as opposed to depreciating annually.
Just my opinion.....
Regards,
Badger
- Location
- Pile of Bones, SK
Oden said:
Oden, seeing as it is absent an ejector screw on the left side of the receiver, I would say that's a big November Oscar.
A black synthetic stocked tanker with a picatinny rail mounted ahead of the action (scout style for 4X trijicon clone) and using M305 mags. Allows the use of savage barrels and a sub 600$ price tag and then I would buy one for sure. It would make a good weapon for a sniper's spotter and still be over 1000$ cheaper than a socom 16.
cnc milled receiver,chromed chamber and barrel,or target barrel on the 4t with floated barrels?
i don't think $700 plus for new production is out of line if the quality is there.i would consider it as a hunting/target rifle and not part of my milsurps.i would imagine because this question is being asked in the milsurp forum that it would not be a large success simply because it is not to origional specs.for someone who is not necessarily into milsurps but still finds the lees apealing,this may have a nice market in Canada.
i like the fact its in .308
i don't think $700 plus for new production is out of line if the quality is there.i would consider it as a hunting/target rifle and not part of my milsurps.i would imagine because this question is being asked in the milsurp forum that it would not be a large success simply because it is not to origional specs.for someone who is not necessarily into milsurps but still finds the lees apealing,this may have a nice market in Canada.
i like the fact its in .308
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- Location
- Edmonton, AB
I wan to see a link to marstar's page on these....
- Location
- Edmonton, AB
I noticed that.
I wonder if one of these would pass off for Service Rifle shooting
I wonder if one of these would pass off for Service Rifle shooting
Thankx for the pic nkdjames.
I would have to concure about the PH5C sight being a no go...unless...I had access to a fully equiped machine shop. A little lathe work here a drill and tap there...BUT WAIT! I wouldn't dare do that to a fine piece of milsurp history
Oh yeah its not milsurp, I could sleep at night if I butchered a AIA No4.
Thats one reason why I vote yeh to these rifles. Hack and slash and customize till ones heart is content. Sure is heck I'm not going to do that to my Longbranch or Irish Contract.
I would have to concure about the PH5C sight being a no go...unless...I had access to a fully equiped machine shop. A little lathe work here a drill and tap there...BUT WAIT! I wouldn't dare do that to a fine piece of milsurp history
Oh yeah its not milsurp, I could sleep at night if I butchered a AIA No4.
Thats one reason why I vote yeh to these rifles. Hack and slash and customize till ones heart is content. Sure is heck I'm not going to do that to my Longbranch or Irish Contract.
Like the look of the jungle carbine. The fact that it comes in 7.62x39 is a big plus, though 700-800+ is going to put a dent in my milsurp purchase plans. Might have to wait on these, since they are new I don't think they are going anywhere soon.
HELL YA DOUG
OF COURSE!
Not everyone can obtain milsurp .303 for a good price. You just don't find it anymore. BUT HEY 7.62 NATO is quite available. I wouldn't mind shooting BCRA service rifle with the No4M4 T. Gives me shivers just thinking about shooting a modern bolt action battle rifle. I'll probably get a new manufacture AIA Enfield No4 MkIV that uses M-14 mags with a picatinney rail and then scope it using milspec quick detach rings. But until I find someone that I trust field test these things or until I can find one for sale in Canada Its a back burner idea.
No4Mk4
The No4Mk4 Turnbolt, bolt-action, detachable magazine feed rifle with 60 degree bolt rotation. Rear locking bolt with detachable bolt head. Safety catch locking both firing pin and bolt. Military style two-stage trigger. CNC milled receiver of military-ordnance steel. Hard chrome lined chamber and barrel. Stock of premium teak with steel buttplate and sling swivels. No accessories included with this model. 25.2" barrel with an average weight of 9.1 lbs.
No4MkIVT
The No4Mk4T Same features as the No. 4 MK4 except upgrade to walnut stock and glass bedded target barrel (not chrome). Accessories included are picatinny rail, M1907, leather sling, waxed canvas case, spare magazine (M14), front sight adjustment tool, and a 4x32 scope. .308 caliber with a 25.2" barrel and an average weight of 9.5 lbs.
M42
M42 Tactical Match rifle in .308 caliber with New Guinea Mahogany stock and extra cheek piece. Blue printed action with glass bedded heavy Match Grade barrel (not chrome lined). Includes the same accessory options as the No.4 MK4T in addition to a wooden carry case. .308 caliber with a 27.6" barrel and an average weight of 8.2 lbs.
M-10A2
Turnbolt, bolt-action, detachable magazine feed rifle with 60 degree bolt rotation. Rear locking bolt with detachable bolt head. Safety catch locking both firing pin and bolt. Military style two-stage trigger. CNC milled receiver of military-ordnance steel. Hard chrome lined chamber and barrel. Stock of premium teak with steel buttplate and sling swivels. This model comes equipped with extra magazine (AK47), picatinny rail, leather sling, front sight adjustment tool and waxed canvas carry bag. Comes in 7.62 x 39 caliber, with 16.1" barrel with an average weight of 8.3 lbs.
OF COURSE!
Not everyone can obtain milsurp .303 for a good price. You just don't find it anymore. BUT HEY 7.62 NATO is quite available. I wouldn't mind shooting BCRA service rifle with the No4M4 T. Gives me shivers just thinking about shooting a modern bolt action battle rifle. I'll probably get a new manufacture AIA Enfield No4 MkIV that uses M-14 mags with a picatinney rail and then scope it using milspec quick detach rings. But until I find someone that I trust field test these things or until I can find one for sale in Canada Its a back burner idea.
No4Mk4
The No4Mk4 Turnbolt, bolt-action, detachable magazine feed rifle with 60 degree bolt rotation. Rear locking bolt with detachable bolt head. Safety catch locking both firing pin and bolt. Military style two-stage trigger. CNC milled receiver of military-ordnance steel. Hard chrome lined chamber and barrel. Stock of premium teak with steel buttplate and sling swivels. No accessories included with this model. 25.2" barrel with an average weight of 9.1 lbs.
No4MkIVT
The No4Mk4T Same features as the No. 4 MK4 except upgrade to walnut stock and glass bedded target barrel (not chrome). Accessories included are picatinny rail, M1907, leather sling, waxed canvas case, spare magazine (M14), front sight adjustment tool, and a 4x32 scope. .308 caliber with a 25.2" barrel and an average weight of 9.5 lbs.
M42
M42 Tactical Match rifle in .308 caliber with New Guinea Mahogany stock and extra cheek piece. Blue printed action with glass bedded heavy Match Grade barrel (not chrome lined). Includes the same accessory options as the No.4 MK4T in addition to a wooden carry case. .308 caliber with a 27.6" barrel and an average weight of 8.2 lbs.
M-10A2
Turnbolt, bolt-action, detachable magazine feed rifle with 60 degree bolt rotation. Rear locking bolt with detachable bolt head. Safety catch locking both firing pin and bolt. Military style two-stage trigger. CNC milled receiver of military-ordnance steel. Hard chrome lined chamber and barrel. Stock of premium teak with steel buttplate and sling swivels. This model comes equipped with extra magazine (AK47), picatinny rail, leather sling, front sight adjustment tool and waxed canvas carry bag. Comes in 7.62 x 39 caliber, with 16.1" barrel with an average weight of 8.3 lbs.
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maple_leaf_eh
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Was away from the forum for a week and look at all the action! The salient parts of this argument are - are you comparing it to a WWII No.4 Mk I or I*, or are you thinking that this is a modern rifle? It looks like the first one, but in every sense it is the second.
So, for any hunters who want a Lee Enfield-style hunting rifle (and from one gun store owner, there are a lot of guys out there looking) here you have one. And for guys who want a 7.62 NATO magazine rifle with a scope base and knock about functionality, with an as yet undetermined barrel thread, here you go.
(I wouldn't want to test the munifiscence (hey, big word of the day) of the next milsurp match committee, to get their approval.)
So, for any hunters who want a Lee Enfield-style hunting rifle (and from one gun store owner, there are a lot of guys out there looking) here you have one. And for guys who want a 7.62 NATO magazine rifle with a scope base and knock about functionality, with an as yet undetermined barrel thread, here you go.
(I wouldn't want to test the munifiscence (hey, big word of the day) of the next milsurp match committee, to get their approval.)
stencollector
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- shilo MB, the armpit of Canada
So is it a safe assumption that the magazine is different enough from a M14 that it will not be regulated to 5 rounds here in Canada. Or that the magazine exemption of 10 rounds for a Lee Enfield magazine will not be mis-interpreted to apply to these mags?
Bolt actions can have magazines greater than 5 shot capacity as long as the magazine isn't one from a semi auto. Apparently the .308 magazines are sufficiently different from a M-14 magazine that this isn't supposed to be a problem. The magazine does not have the front latching hole, so it is not designed to be used in, nor will it function in, a M-14. IF a M-14 magazine were to be used in one of these rifles, it would have to be blocked to 5 rounds.
Are there any provincial hunting regualtions which limit magazine capacity for manually operated rifles?
Are there any provincial hunting regualtions which limit magazine capacity for manually operated rifles?
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tiriaq said:
Here in BC I believe it is soon to be updated as people have been using 10 round Enfields for hunting for ever, not to mention all the 6 and 8 round bear defence slug shotguns.
IMHO Mag restrictions only makes sense for water fowl really.
