Jeeze really gotta start going to a cgnutter range that's where all the good stuffs at
No Drill and Tap side mount for Swiss 96/11, M1911, K11, 1897 Kadet and M1889.
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Jeeze really gotta start going to a cgnutter range that's where all the good stuffs at
Swiss products released a picture today.
A little Victorian looking perhaps, but solid. I can live with it.
My sample came in and I test fitted it on a LG1911 and a K11 at Tradeex.
Gave some feedback already to Swiss Products.
A minor change will be incorporated in the first production run for a better fit on all the K11s. Swiss products have 3 K11s where the fit was fine. Slightly tight with the one tested today.
Will try it on my own rifles later on.
Scope ring position will have to change on scopes and ring combinations already setup for a K31.
The 1911 rifle receivers are longer than the K31 receivers.
Taller rings will also be needed on K11 to clear the rear sights.
Very tight fit with 40mm objective and medium height Warne 7.3 rings on a Bushnell Elite 3200 10x40 Tactical
Hubble telescopes will not fit.
40mm probably will be the maximum possible with high rings.
A little Victorian looking perhaps, but solid. I can live with it.
My sample came in and I test fitted it on a LG1911 and a K11 at Tradeex.
Gave some feedback already to Swiss Products.
A minor change will be incorporated in the first production run for a better fit on all the K11s. Swiss products have 3 K11s where the fit was fine. Slightly tight with the one tested today.
Will try it on my own rifles later on.
Scope ring position will have to change on scopes and ring combinations already setup for a K31.
The 1911 rifle receivers are longer than the K31 receivers.
Taller rings will also be needed on K11 to clear the rear sights.
Very tight fit with 40mm objective and medium height Warne 7.3 rings on a Bushnell Elite 3200 10x40 Tactical
Hubble telescopes will not fit.
40mm probably will be the maximum possible with high rings.
I gave the mount a field test a few weeks ago on my 96/11. with some GP11 from Tradeex.
Weather conditions could have been better as we had frost on the ground and a biting cold wind.
Cold enough to need light winter coats and gloves. Wind enough to make you take cover on protected side of a wall.
Clothing made us realize how long the butt stock on a 96/11 or 1911 actually is, with a scope.
Irons sights were ok but we had to struggle to crane our necks to get a good sight picture with the scope used. Rings being too tall didn't help. People over 6ft should like it that way.
Scope was a Zeiss Diatal C 4x32. This scope while very good optically, ended up being a little short for good eye relief with the long butt stock. The scope measures 5.2 inches between the bells and 8.2 inches from the start of the front bell to the rear of the ocular. even a scope one inch longer on these measures would have made shooting it more comfortable and consistent.
I made a mistake with the rings. When I originally fitted a scope and rings directly from a K31 for a test fitting without loosening the rings, I thought I would need high rings to clear the rear sight.
Not so. Medium would have been much better and low might might work too. High rings are too high for all three of us who shot it today. All of us under 6ft tall. We had a hard time getting a solid check weld.
Mount was very consistent.
After about 20 rounds of 1978 GP11, groups started opening up slightly. Re-tightened scope rings and action screws. POI shifted. The crosshair ended up about 18 inches to the right and 12-15 inches higher at 100yds of the aim point.
Re-sighted in and groups were as they should be considering the length of pull, cheek weld and scope length issues. Used irons sights as guide for gross click corrections on scope. Saved lots of ammo and time that way.
Really like the mount and will find a better scope and ring height match for next time.
Someone asked on the Swiss Rifles Message Boards how much the offset was.
As close as I can measure from T.D.C. of receiver to B.D.C. of scope.
Perspective slightly distorted by short focal length setting on camera lens.
Weather conditions could have been better as we had frost on the ground and a biting cold wind.
Cold enough to need light winter coats and gloves. Wind enough to make you take cover on protected side of a wall.
Clothing made us realize how long the butt stock on a 96/11 or 1911 actually is, with a scope.
Irons sights were ok but we had to struggle to crane our necks to get a good sight picture with the scope used. Rings being too tall didn't help. People over 6ft should like it that way.
Scope was a Zeiss Diatal C 4x32. This scope while very good optically, ended up being a little short for good eye relief with the long butt stock. The scope measures 5.2 inches between the bells and 8.2 inches from the start of the front bell to the rear of the ocular. even a scope one inch longer on these measures would have made shooting it more comfortable and consistent.
I made a mistake with the rings. When I originally fitted a scope and rings directly from a K31 for a test fitting without loosening the rings, I thought I would need high rings to clear the rear sight.
Not so. Medium would have been much better and low might might work too. High rings are too high for all three of us who shot it today. All of us under 6ft tall. We had a hard time getting a solid check weld.
Mount was very consistent.
After about 20 rounds of 1978 GP11, groups started opening up slightly. Re-tightened scope rings and action screws. POI shifted. The crosshair ended up about 18 inches to the right and 12-15 inches higher at 100yds of the aim point.
Re-sighted in and groups were as they should be considering the length of pull, cheek weld and scope length issues. Used irons sights as guide for gross click corrections on scope. Saved lots of ammo and time that way.
Really like the mount and will find a better scope and ring height match for next time.
Someone asked on the Swiss Rifles Message Boards how much the offset was.
As close as I can measure from T.D.C. of receiver to B.D.C. of scope.
Perspective slightly distorted by short focal length setting on camera lens.
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I have a feeling it's likely because he's such a good guy. Very helpful and knows his swiss rifles!
Suggested retail $149.00 CAD
No rings include.
Uses .3/8"(11mm) dovetail base 22lr rings of whatever diameter scope you want to use.
Ring Height will depend on scope objective size and distance from scope bell to the rear sights on whichever model you mount it on.
Note how rear sight arrangement is different on these three models.
No rings include.
Uses .3/8"(11mm) dovetail base 22lr rings of whatever diameter scope you want to use.
Ring Height will depend on scope objective size and distance from scope bell to the rear sights on whichever model you mount it on.
Note how rear sight arrangement is different on these three models.
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