No Longer A Fan OF WipeOut
- Thread starter Max Owner
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Yeah I thought the same however when I thought about it EVERYTHING goes towards the muzzle end.I feel that when I pull the rod out of the chamber small(like almost microscopic) pieces of the plastic get caught and torn off on any slightly rough edges as I withdraw it.I've cleaned the crap out of a barrel with wet patches and ended with almost nothing other than the usual greyness.Then when I dry patched it more black came out.I keep dry patching and more stuff comes out every time.So now I have a carbon rod and don't get the same effect.
Jerry - When using, do ya mix it out with Ivory dishsoap, or some such, as has been popular elsewhere?
No it shows up as visible black gunk.Too small to look like chunks.
Mystic Precision
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Summerland, BC
Nope, just straight from the bottle... I really don't want any more chemicals in my barrel then necessary especially a soap that will need rinsing.
works great.
Jerry
I dunno...
I only have match grade button rifled barrels, but I have never had an issue with Wipeout?
I use 7.62 to check for copper ever now and then and any copper residue has always been insignificant.
I do use Isso the throat and first bit of bore every now and then, but I don't trust anything but Isso to keep this area of the bore perfectly carbon free.
Anyone else do this?
I only have match grade button rifled barrels, but I have never had an issue with Wipeout?
I use 7.62 to check for copper ever now and then and any copper residue has always been insignificant.
I do use Isso the throat and first bit of bore every now and then, but I don't trust anything but Isso to keep this area of the bore perfectly carbon free.
Anyone else do this?
Are you talking about ISSO bore paste? I tried a tube that someone gave me. I could not believe how black the patches were coming out. Then I put some ISSO bore paste on a patch and rubbed it on a piece of clean, surface ground stainless steel I had in the shop. That patch turned black too. After one week the stainless was starting to rust.
I sometimes check for fouling remains after using WIPEOUT, by using CR-10. There just isn't much left behind by WIPEOUT....
But I don't rush the job either. I will come home, lay the rifles down in the cradle and squirt in the foam, come back in an hour to patch out the surface stuff and then reapply and leave over night, patchout in the AM, reapply and leave until I get home form work, etc.
If I need it done faster I use the WIPEOUT accelerator and if I need it done right this minute I just use CR-10.
Neglected or rusty bores I usually grab JB paste.
But I don't rush the job either. I will come home, lay the rifles down in the cradle and squirt in the foam, come back in an hour to patch out the surface stuff and then reapply and leave over night, patchout in the AM, reapply and leave until I get home form work, etc.
If I need it done faster I use the WIPEOUT accelerator and if I need it done right this minute I just use CR-10.
Neglected or rusty bores I usually grab JB paste.
- Location
- Calgary, AB
Has anyone used JB bore paste?
I use it on a brand new barrel before firing. Run about 10 patches through to smooth it out, then clean and shoot. Barrels clean up easier than the ones that didn't get the treatment
AFWIW I use wipeout, works fine IMO
I have used JB and continue to do so in lesser quality bores (factory). It supposedly will not hurt a bore, but I'm not taking any chances with a match quality barrel.
Isso is a finer (less aggressive) version of JB.
I don't believe rust developing on stainless has anything to do with the ISSO, but it does show it stripped the surface clean and left it unprotected. Many types of stainless will rust.
The black is metal and carbon, but (If used intelligently) I don't believe you can hurt a match bore with the stuff.
I am aware stainless will rust but the only part of the block that rusted was where it was rubbed with the ISSO bore paste. The reason I did this test was because when I tried the ISSO paste in the bore the patches where coming out really black. The bore was cleaned spotless with shooter choice and Sweet's so I couldn't understand the black patches with the ISSO paste. The more I used it the blacker the patches. I believe there is a chemical reaction between the stainless and ISSO paste that give a false reading on how clean your barrel really is.
- Location
- Calgary, AB
Thanks. I will pick some up and give my factory barrels a clean. I also read that Remington 40-X Bore Cleaner is similar to JB.
Mystic Precision
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Summerland, BC
I have used JB and JB bore brite over the years and I really like it. When I find a rough bore heavily fouled, I will use the JB and get the crud out.
Better then any chemical cleaner I have used for mining all manner of abuse including light surface rust. I have saved a few bores that way.
The bore brite is supposed to be something like jewellers rouge which is a very fine polish. JB reg paste is finer still.
If I had a production barrel that was a bad fouler, I would definitely hit it with both JB reg. and Borebrite. Seems to help.
Even though they are a mild abrasive, I think you would need to work full time to actually remove significant amounts of metal. I put some on a clothe and rubbed the outside of a barrel really hard until my arm quit.
Got a nice shiny spot but not much else.
With the quality of finish on match barrels, I would never need to put this product to use. I might just short stroke near the throat to speed up barrel break in but not down the bore as I will do more harm then good.
Jerry
