non restricted 10/22 pistol
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I think it looks slick, probably lots of fun to shoot! Is it easy to sight with the scope, or do you just blast away?
No difference really ... but then that Mossberg is also a restricted weapon under Canadian Law, if it can be aimed and fired with one hand!jbunny said:
1. Under Canadian Law, all "handguns" are "Restricted" (unless they are "Prohibited".)
2. The legal definition of "handgun" is found in Section 84 of the Criminal Code of Canada:
Under these provisions, if you can aim and fire it with one hand, you have created a "handgun" - and thus a "Restricted Weapon" - when you fit the barreled action to this stock ... (What's worse - under the latter part of the above Criminal Code provision, having done so, your 10/22 legally remains a handgun, and thus Resticted, even when you change it back to rifle configuration!
)You can aim and fire anything with one hand....that don't make it a handgun......your reading too much into the regs.....
GrantR said:No difference really ... but then that Mossberg is also a restricted weapon under Canadian Law, if it can be aimed and fired with one hand!
1. Under Canadian Law, all "handguns" are "Restricted" (unless they are "Prohibited".)
2. The legal definition of "handgun" is found in Section 84 of the Criminal Code of Canada: Under these provisions, if you can aim and fire it with one hand, you have created a "handgun" - and thus a "Restricted Weapon" - when you fit the barreled action to this stock ... (What's worse - under the latter part of the above Criminal Code provision, having done so, your 10/22 legally remains a handgun, and thus Resticted, even when you change it back to rifle configuration!
Don't be too confident - what you say is arguably true, but ... this stock goes further, and alters a rifle configuration to a pistol grip without buttstock! (You'd be well advised to research some of the case law on this ... Perhaps I should mention that I am a lawyer.)coltfan said:
JohnC
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
it's a grey area. It seems apparent that the Ruger was designed to be fired by 2 hands . Same asa pistol grip replacing the stock on a shotgun, sure you can fire it 1 handed, but unless you're built like Arnie in his heyday your chance of aiming accurately and hitting your target are slim.
it depends on the definition of fire. To me it has to mean aim and fire with a reasonable probability of hitting the target. if it only means "squeeze the trigger" then everything is restricted in the above legalistic sense. Of course, in a broad sense, all guns in canada are prohibited, since its a crime to own one without the proper paperwork.
it depends on the definition of fire. To me it has to mean aim and fire with a reasonable probability of hitting the target. if it only means "squeeze the trigger" then everything is restricted in the above legalistic sense. Of course, in a broad sense, all guns in canada are prohibited, since its a crime to own one without the proper paperwork.
GrantR said:
I am not a lawyer, but the ease of changing the bbl on a standard 10/22 makes it for a perfect candidate for a very difficult case.
I have a folding stock on mine, which puts us in the same overall length, but I can argue mine is not designed to be fired with a single hand. If I would have in my dwelling a shorter bbl (that would still be ok with a standard stock), or a light weight carbon bbl., one could assume that within minutes I can transform the firearm into a veritable handgun, very probable to be easy to aim and fire with one hand.
tricky thing you.ve got there. I'm sure that getting an Firearms officer to give you the ok on it would bring peace of mid.
the fact that rimfires 22s are subject to almost same regulations as the larger ceterfire calibres is an argument, but not if one is indicted....
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Wow, the rules get harder to comprehend all the time
No ...you don't have to mention what your profession is.......unless you are specifically a firearms law expert, your opinion is worth no more than any one elses.GrantR said:
A non restricted rifle or shotgun does not change class due to the addition of a pistol grip.....it is still designed to be operated with 2 hands, just by sheer size and balance issues....any lawyer or welder would be able to argue that
