Non-restricted vs standard capacity AR...

Dietz said:
Pretty much everybody in this thread actually.

The only reason we are even able to own AR's, let alone shoot them, is sheer luck.

Magazine capacity is a much, much, much bigger issue firearms-wide than rectricted vs non-restricted AR's.
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Seriously? The OP asked people to choose option #1 or #2. You chose #1 so by your logic we can all safely assume you enjoyed taking it up the "rear end" when ARs became classified as restricted firearms???

And I have to chuckle at people who say, "Option 5!" not because they are wrong about the fact that restricted status and mag caps and prohibited suppressors and prohibited full autos ARE ALL STUPID CONSTRUCTS...everyone thinks both restricted status AND mag caps should go but we were asked to pick one. How about I say "I vote for option #6: full auto suppressed non-restricted and a solid gold toilet for everyone!". Doesn't that sound better?
 
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I only say that because if they were to de-restrict mags for the AR that would mean they would HAVE to do it for all fire-arms.

And as much as I love my AR and would love to go predator hunting with it, I'd love for the rest of my guns to have higher cap mags.
 
canadiansurvivor said:
I think that de-restricting ARs would change the firearm scene so much in Canada that more attention would be given to semi-autos and it would be easier to change the laws on mag capacities because every joe shmoe would have an AR pinned to 5... on the contrary, say we got rid of capacity restrictions first, it wouldn't really shed any light on how to de-restrict the AR platform and in my opinion give the antis some serious ammo (pardon the pun). Not that mag caps change ANYTHING with firearms in criminal cicumstances, but it will be harder to hold onto, and harder to move on from there.

I vote #2 De-restrict ARs!
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What he said.
 
00aught said:
I strongly disagree. I'd much rather take an ar15 into the bush with 10 or 15 rounds then go with an xcr with 30. I personally don't need anymore then 10 rounds. You're crazy if you'd rather have an extra 15 or 20 rounds and save yourself that 2 second reload then have an ar15 with you in the bush
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The AR15 and XCR are functionally similar. Are you comparing the AR15 to the XCR-L, or the XCR-M? Well I guess it would have to be the XCR-L, wouldn't make sense comparing 15 rounds of 5.56 with... 30 rounds of 7.62NATO unless a high-cap mag is involved. The 7.62x39 is an excellent hunting round, also available in the XCR-L. Please explain what is crazy with choosing a multi-caliber rifle over an AR15, even though it has a gas piston instead of direct impingement? Not all AR's are built equal, either. I'm willing to bet that *some* XCRs will outperform *some* ARs. Especially if your spotter is carrying a spare barrel in a different calibre with ammo for it.
 
Non-restricted for me. I've always hunted with reduced capacity, plus mag changes aren't so bad. Being able to shoot an AR on my own land would be nice. Definitely a good coyote gun.
 
Though 60 rds in rapid fire with 1 mag changed would be awesome experience like no other.
I'd leave it to the pros, and take my ar15 with 5 rds to the coyotes.
 
Non restricted AR's would lead to the biggest growth of the firearms community in canada in a long time..
due to their modularity and customization.
The AR industry that exists in the USA be it training videos, internet forums, small manufactuers of all sorts ar products,
The AR is a pretty much the center of the firearms sub culture.
This rifle would draw many young people getting into firearms for the above reasons, also the older fellows will like the .308 versions for their accuracy potential and the fact they are chambered in a real calibre.

my two cents more people involved in the community leads to more change if it was between mags and ARs hands down ARs non restricted.
 
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250rg said:
Non restricted AR's would lead to the biggest growth of the firearms community in canada in a long time..
due to their modularity and customization.
The AR industry that exists in the USA be it training videos, internet forums, small manufactuers of all sorts ar products,
The AR is a pretty much the center of the firearms sub culture.
This rifle would draw many young people getting into firearms for the above reasons, also the older fellows will like the .308 versions for their accuracy potential and the fact they are chambered in a real calibre.

my two cents more people involved in the community leads to more change if it was between mags and ARs hands down ARs non restricted.
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Well stated...
 
Dietz said:
Magazine capacity is a much, much, much bigger issue firearms-wide than rectricted vs non-restricted AR's.
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I don't think this is correct at all, like others have stated allowing AR's to go Non-Restricted would open a huge new market of potential shooters who want nothing more then to take their AR to the woods instead of the range. I for one know several shooters who have not gone with the AR (although their first choice) because of it's Restricted status.
Now that we have 10Rd. capacity legal mag.'s available for the AR, magazine capacity isn't as big a concern as the option of being allowed to use your rifle somewhere else other then the range.

Lets not forget all the hunters that would love to carry an AR, I'm sure they would be more then happy to abide by the legal capacity limits for hunting just as they do now with their NR rifles. The sales of AR's would increase immensely overnight if they became NR, this however would reduce the sales of XCR's, SKS's, Mini14"s/30"s, JR Carbines, and many other NR status Black Rifles. However if given NR status the sales of AR's would far outweigh the combined sales of all the other Black NR Rifles combined just as it is in the U.S. of A.

Larger capacity 10Rd.+ Magazines would be awesome, but being able to go shooting other then the range or to use hunting Trumps the larger capacity Mag.'s big time. Just my .02 cents...
 
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