Norinco 1911 any good?
- Thread starter casscan2
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any 1911 that isnt a colt is knock off ;-)
have a NP 29, love it. sure theres better options at higher prices but for that price you get a gun that works. as time goes buy you can spiff it up a little or a lot. no regrets about any of my norinco purchases
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Actually, any 1911 that isn't John Browning's original tool room example is a knock-off....
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Cocked&Locked
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almost all pistols in production today are "knock offs" of one of four designs. Either 1911, P35 aka High Power, P38 mauser or a glock. Look at how many companies make copies of CZ 75. I can think of at least 5 without breaking a sweat. How many piled onto the polymer/striker bandwagon once glock started stealing all the police sales? Heck, Smith and Wesson even lost a patent infringement case to them for the Sigma. (and managed to make a junkier gun to boot...not one of their better products )
As stated, every 1911 maker other then colt simply picked up cad data off the internet and then maybe tweaked it a bit to suit their machines. Hell, we probably SOLD the chinese the tooling they make the guns with. As far as quality goes, the shop i'm working in has had 2 colts and a couple of kimbers sent out for repair/warrantee work within the first month of sale, but never had a norc come back. I will agree the springs are poor, and i've not been impressed with the mags, but then i buy new/extra mags for every pistol i purchase, so that's no big deal to me. The commander length one i picked up will out shoot my full size Springfield loaded on a regular basis, and the slide fit is better to boot. You can choose to avoid norc's cause you disagree politically with their makers, which is a good enough reason, but the days of them shipping junk guns have been gone since the late 80's early 90s
As stated, every 1911 maker other then colt simply picked up cad data off the internet and then maybe tweaked it a bit to suit their machines. Hell, we probably SOLD the chinese the tooling they make the guns with. As far as quality goes, the shop i'm working in has had 2 colts and a couple of kimbers sent out for repair/warrantee work within the first month of sale, but never had a norc come back. I will agree the springs are poor, and i've not been impressed with the mags, but then i buy new/extra mags for every pistol i purchase, so that's no big deal to me. The commander length one i picked up will out shoot my full size Springfield loaded on a regular basis, and the slide fit is better to boot. You can choose to avoid norc's cause you disagree politically with their makers, which is a good enough reason, but the days of them shipping junk guns have been gone since the late 80's early 90s
Dare I ask what the opinion is regarding Norc vs SAM, based on absolute quality vs bang for the buck?
I'm still trying to decide between an affordable 1911 in either 9mm or 45ACP or save up for a CZ85 Combat. I don't like buying and selling, so for me a firearm is more of a carefully considered lifetime purchase than it is a Buy Try Flip-at-a-loss deal.
I see the Norc is at least semi ambidextrous out of the box, which my sinistral nature likes. Of course the CZ has everything in that dept too
I'm still trying to decide between an affordable 1911 in either 9mm or 45ACP or save up for a CZ85 Combat. I don't like buying and selling, so for me a firearm is more of a carefully considered lifetime purchase than it is a Buy Try Flip-at-a-loss deal.
I see the Norc is at least semi ambidextrous out of the box, which my sinistral nature likes. Of course the CZ has everything in that dept too
Cocked&Locked
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The CZ is a much nicer pistol but at twice the price it should be Between the SAM and the Norc, i'd take the Norc every time.
Between the SAM and the Norc, i'd take the Norc every time.
drum_boy101
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- Highland Valley, BC
I have a Norc 1911 Commander, love it! No issues, eats everything I've fed it.
The CZ is a much nicer pistol but at twice the price it should be
That's the problem - I often tend to "upgrade" myself out of my original price bracket on many things in life. ~$700 for a handgun is a substantial amount of pelf, at least for me.
We have a range here that rents pistols. It isn't inexpensive, but that might be a good option to try before buy, even so far as assessing the fun factor of 9mm vs 45.
Or I'll just bum around my club more and see if someone will swap a mag of something for a cylinder of 45 Colt love ;D
Pistolwhiptricks
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If you think $700 for a handgun in Canada is a lot of money you chose the wrong hobby to have. It's not really the cost of the firearm that gets expensive, it's having to feed it. If money is an issue your better off sticking with 9mm and stay away from the 45 depending on how much you actually plan to shoot.
No hobby worth having is cheap, is it?
Justifying how much and where to invest in it is where the dilemma comes in. I reload and cast, so ammunition isn't as big a problem, though with all of the 9mm range brass I've been finding I expect it would still be substantially cheaper to shoot. I'm just recreational right now, but down the road I might want to do something like IDPA, and I currently own nothing that is acceptable for that.
(sorry to take the thread off track)
Other point if it matters, any after market part I replaced on my SAM was tight and needed some minor fitting. Same part was loose fitting in the Nork. To me, the SAM made on cnc machines is a step up from a Nork for fit, finish, and sights are miles ahead of the Norks.
No hobby worth having is cheap, is it?
My theory: Nothing is a hobby till you spend $10,000. Before that it's a passing interest.
