Unless they changed how they started making the carrier between runs of the 780, I wish you luck getting 870 parts to work. I posted a pic earlier in the thread showing the 1/4 inch size difference between the two carrier blocks.
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Unless they changed how they started making the carrier between runs of the 780, I wish you luck getting 870 parts to work. I posted a pic earlier in the thread showing the 1/4 inch size difference between the two carrier blocks.
Started with the bolt carrier. The cast is horrible at best. I was trying to produce an aluminum or steel carrier for around $80 but can't seem to do it for that price. Its getting closer to $150 to machine this part from steel or billet (pretty much making it indestructable) but I figured the cost was too high to sell (nevermind try to scrounge a $10 profit) so I gave up on it. Shot mine a few times everything works well just a little rough to rack.
It was clearly stated on their website that high potential of failure. Look for a 14" barrel new for $90. IMO its worth it just for the barrel.
disclaimer: I'm not complaining
They said they some require minor tinkering and break down the road. Mine had 25 rounds MAX through it before it completely crapped the bed. That being said, it was a gamble at $90 and I lost. I think every single one that's been out and shot say a box or two, has had a complete failure.
I was able to assemble, but not cycle with 870 parts in mine... one day I'll turn it into a lamp instead.
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Im guessing this deal is over. Just found out about this now.
Mines still in packing grease.... so I'll assume mine will work at least once too haha
This is interesting. I knew that China had poor QC but this is off the chart. It's right up there with selling toxic toys to young kids.
Why would they sell something like that? If "someone took a huge loss" then it means that he couldn't send them back?
Why would they make them in the first place?
I just finished reading the whole thread and I might never own a Norinco ever again.
the issue is norinco just slaps their name onto imported products from factories throughout china. With the 870 knock offs (as will some of the other models they carry) it was a mistake of theirs.
I never seem to hear bad things about the m14's, sigs or colt pistol they knock off.
But as stated above, when you get a gun for $90 and its a 50/50 chance it will fail, well you got exactly what you paid for.
I never seem to hear bad things about the m14's, sigs or colt pistol they knock off.
But as stated above, when you get a gun for $90 and its a 50/50 chance it will fail, well you got exactly what you paid for.
First it looks like it's way more than 50/50. Second it's not a matter of price. These guns weren't meant to sell for $90 (hence the "huge loss").
Someone, somewhere had to make (and sell) these POS. It's not normal to make a bunch of guns that won't feed properly FOR VARIOUS REASONS. It's also not normal to make gun that will fall apart after a few rounds fired. Something is fishy, it looks like an experiment.
i agree, i cant imagine they planned to market something that crappy,
Norinco is up in the air for me, i woudlent mind one of their M14's and my buddy has a Norc SKS that shoots and fuctions great, but some of their stuff is....well you get what you pay for
for $89 its not a bad deal, but since i already had several other shotguns i decided to buy a tank of gas instead
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