Norinco M1 carbine, is it possible?

TheOldSarge said:
Norinco would never produce an M1 Carbine in 30-30, however they may be convinced to re-produce the M1 Carbine with a 19" barrel so it is non-restricted in Canada, and legal in certain American States.
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AFAIK, It is still not legal to import a firearm from China into the U.S. Trust me, They'd be swimming in M305s if it were.
 
yes and no. they can as long as they are not a military design, hence to ithaca 37 clones that stevens was selling and the 1887 and 1897 winehster shotguns, with the exception of the 97 trench gun.
 
TheOldSarge said:
The M1 Carbine was a short (hence Carbine) Semi-Automatic Rifle that fired the .30 Carbine (Metric 7.62x33) rimless cartridge. I believe the M1 Carbine was the only rifle ever produced that chambered this cartridge.
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There was a company in Britain that made a FEW Enfields modified to fire .30c.
Also, while not rifles, Israel made the unreliable Magal, Columbia made the Cristobal Carbine, and currently FAMAE is making the CT-30 police carbine in .30c Taurus also produces the CT-30 under license.

But that's about it.

I'm personally kinda confused by the 7.62x25TT suggestions...but, meh.
 
i'll put my two cents in with the 7.62x25 crowd. cheap surplus ammo is what's missing in the M1 .30 carbine equation. no point having a low dollar gun with high ammo costs.
...maybe canada ammo can come out with a combo package for this too! (norinco M1 carbine with a case of 7.62x25 for $??? :)
 
geotensor said:
This is why we need to get rid of the barrel length requirement for semi-auto centerfires.

The 18.5 inch requirement was an attempt to get rid of the M1 carbine as a popular opition for Canadians.

So when can we eliminate the barrel length requirement and just use OAL?
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When I was growing up, there was an epidemic of shooting bank robberies. The drill was for a driver to wait outside. The first guy in the door fired into the ceiling to startle the staff and customers. The firearm of choice was a cut-off carbine with a 30 round magazine. Sometimes they liked M2 carbines, which were easier to find than you'd think. He would loudly count back from 30, so the other two guys who'd leap over the counters and scoop up the cash knew how long they had. Frightening and effective. One of the official countermeasures was to change the gun rules and move semi-automatic centrefire rifles with 18 inch barrels to Restricted. And M1 carbines were the only guns that met that definition.

It sucks for the rest of us years later, but armed robbers do things differently today. Not a week goes by in any major Canadian city when a bank isn't held up.
 
geotensor said:
This is why we need to get rid of the barrel length requirement for semi-auto centerfires.

The 18.5 inch requirement was an attempt to get rid of the M1 carbine as a popular opition for Canadians.

So when can we eliminate the barrel length requirement and just use OAL?
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Eliminate all barrel and OAL restrictions. A gun, is a gun, is a gun.
 
maple_leaf_eh said:
When I was growing up, there was an epidemic of shooting bank robberies. The drill was for a driver to wait outside. The first guy in the door fired into the ceiling to startle the staff and customers. The firearm of choice was a cut-off carbine with a 30 round magazine. Sometimes they liked M2 carbines, which were easier to find than you'd think. He would loudly count back from 30, so the other two guys who'd leap over the counters and scoop up the cash knew how long they had. Frightening and effective. One of the official countermeasures was to change the gun rules and move semi-automatic centrefire rifles with 18 inch barrels to Restricted. And M1 carbines were the only guns that met that definition.

It sucks for the rest of us years later, but armed robbers do things differently today. Not a week goes by in any major Canadian city when a bank isn't held up.
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Funny how robbing a bank was illegal then and still is now, and using a firearm in a crime was illegal then and still is now AND WE STILL HAVE BANK ROBBERIES.

Fawkin morons.
 
I've been thinking about it and I think I'd really like one in 5.56. No I don't want a mini14 in this sense for the next one who's thinking of suggesting it.
 
No really groundbreaking ideas in this thread....people not happy with the .30 carbine's performance, but for some reason still enamored of the gun itself... have been building wildcat cartridges and converting M1s for at least 60 years.

http://www.thegunzone.com/carbine-wildcat.html

I'll confess to a certain amount of M1 lust myself....and I'm not even a huge fan of milsurp stuff. Who knows...after some first hand experience with it I might come to hate the thing but I'd at least like to get my hands on one long enough to make up my own mind.....something the government's not inclined to permit.
 
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