Norinco M14 double firing

Odd Shot said:
make sure it passes the hammer follow test!!!
(part of what's otherwise known as the function test)

See TonyBen's video at 46:05 minutes:
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So I cleaned the rifle real good, haven't had the chance to go to the range but sometimes when I perform this test after racking the rifle while holding the trigger down the hammer does fall and strikes the firing pin....so what does that mean exactly?
 
means adjustments to the stock are necessary..... until it passes the hammer follow test... DO NOT shoot that rifle.
the stickies have the info you will need.
a file for front trigger pads.... possible dremel for rear trigger pads, of the stock
you need to close the distance between receiver and trigger group just a hair
 
The rifle is essentially unsafe to fire until it can be fixed and it passes the test. If you fire it like this, it can lead to an out of battery explosion.
 
With a new shooter/firearms owner, and with a new M-14 purchase, I'd recommend taking this one back to the store and show them that it follows with the hammer and ask for a swap for another rifle. Check out the new one now based on the advice given in this post and references to the stickies above.
A Somewhat experienced rifleman, with good mechanical ability and basic tools, now that's a different story if you are so incline to correct this yourself.

We all mean well on the battle Rifle forum,..and all advice given here has been solid, but I too forget when theres Safety Issues on a new rifle to recommend just return for replacement or refund and go from there.
 
Took the gun back to the local gunsmith I purchased it from...Great guy. Quickly made some adjustments to the rifle and now it is passing the hammer follow test every time.
 
Dnas17 said:
Took the gun back to the local gunsmith I purchased it from...Great guy. Quickly made some adjustments to the rifle and now it is passing the hammer follow test every time.
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That's good to hear about that service from you local gunsmith that you bought this rifle from! Welcome to the addiction!

So go back and read the sticky(ies), especially the ones written by that phool, Hungry! :nest:

Then watch lots and lots of M14/M1A vids on Youtube! You are not alone! :)

Cheers and keep helping them noobs out there! :wave:

Barney
 
dante_mags said:
My buddy just bought a new Norinco m14 as well and had the same double fire problem.
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if the rifle checks out fine as per stickies, it could be the way he is pulling the trigger. it must be a define action all the way back. you can't be wimpy about it. it's a military rifle, not a bench rifle. no offense to the precision shooters.
 
1-trident-1 said:
if the rifle checks out fine as per stickies, it could be the way he is pulling the trigger. it must be a define action all the way back. you can't be wimpy about it. it's a military rifle, not a bench rifle. no offense to the precision shooters.
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I talked to my buddy today about his m14 and he said he just cleaned the cosmoline out and it doesn't double fire now.
 
ha! all we need is Tony Ben to come up to Canada with his video gear and do a "how to clean a new from box cosmolined norinco m14" hehehehe
it's a good idea, I think
 
So guess what, took the m14 out to the range and believe me there is no double firing because it barely fires at all. Thats right, while the hammer falls and strikes the pin firing a round all good there the bolt doesn't fly back far enough to eject a round and most be manually ejected. Little research defines this as "short stroking". I don't even know where to go from here but this is for sure the first and last of Norinco I will ever buy.
 
Is the gas regulator vertical like in the pic ..is the gas plug nice and tight. Do a tilt test on it by removing the op rod guide spring and rod. Then tilt the muzzle upwards and the piston should drop down the through gas cylinder at a slow rate .Don't give up on them yet as most of the issues can be easily fixed.
 
chalkriver said:
Is the gas regulator vertical like in the pic ..is the gas plug nice and tight. Do a tilt test on it by removing the op rod guide spring and rod. Then tilt the muzzle upwards and the piston should drop down the through gas cylinder at a slow rate .Don't give up on them yet as most of the issues can be easily fixed.
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While I was at the range, I took the GI tool out of the stock and tighten that thing down real nice and tight. Not that it wasn't tight already, but regardless no proper cycle of the rifle.
 
Dnas17 said:
While I was at the range, I took the GI tool out of the stock and tighten that thing down real nice and tight. Not that it wasn't tight already, but regardless no proper cycle of the rifle.
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Just to confirm, you cleaned all the shipping oil out of the gas system (it should be bone dry in there), and the rifle passes the tilt test?
 
Pop said:
Just to confirm, you cleaned all the shipping oil out of the gas system (it should be bone dry in there), and the rifle passes the tilt test?
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Rifle has been cleaned very well, not within arms reach of the rifle at this moment. Will perform tilt test and report back...
 
I am 180km NW of Ottawa , If you are ever up this way bring your rifle along and I can check it out if you want. Did you use grease to lubricate in the op rod and its guide ?
 
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Is it possible the gun smith took off too much material off the stock and now the hammer is sitting too high?
 
So the gas piston appeared to be "stuck" towards the rear of the rifle, and i was required to push it out with a screwdriver. It is in there very tight and doesn't pass this "tilt test" as in when I raise the muzzle up it barely moves at all. I know have the gas piston out , am I supposed to lube this thing or just clean it very well?
 
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