Norinco M4

TacticalDan said:
does anyone actually know 4 a fact these will come in or are we just hoping and getting excited 4 nothing
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Actually, 45 pages of #####ing and whining, hope and despair, and the contributions of 2 pretty fair sized importers means we're as sure as you can be in the firearms world that these rifles both exist, and in fact are heading for our shores. That being said, if we don't all get off our arses and vote and get out and support the Conservatives all bets are off, 'cause Stephane Dion wants to turn us all into caring environmentally aware metrosexual drones. Manhood will be banned just a couple of weeks after the last firearm.
 
'cause Stephane Dion wants to turn us all into caring environmentally aware metrosexual drones. Manhood will be banned just a couple of weeks after the last firearm.
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hahahahahahahahaha! So true!


I pray that the Norc m4s get here soon, I'll take 2. (I hope the SKS boat comes too, so I can tuck a couple of them away)
 
OnnO said:
so far all the Nork M4s were show up in BC...and I doubt the price will be as reasonable as we expected...:rolleyes:
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When they realize their asking price is too high, it'll go down pretty f*ckin' quick unless too many people buy the Norcs.
 
Thanks Bartledan for the clarification:

The best description of the Chinese state so far. I totally agree, totalitarian and satanist; only satan can think of a grand scheme like that; Capitalism run by a facade repressive communist administration.

But, can we get back to the main topic of this thread; I and certainly many other fellows like to read more about Norinco M4.

Thanks and cheers
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Bartledan said:
Most perfectly capitalist society in history.
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Capitalism implies private property, which implies a right of ownership and use. They have that only in theory; the state can and does confiscate and control at whim.

They would more properly be termed fascist. State control, nationalist (instead of classist - the hallmark of socialism), private management but of , ultimately, the "people's" resources.
 
Ironsight said:
Thanks Bartledan for the clarification:

The best description of the Chinese state so far. I totally agree, totalitarian and satanist; only satan can think of a grand scheme like that; Capitalism run by a facade repressive communist administration.

But, can we get back to the main topic of this thread; I and certainly many other fellows like to read more about Norinco M4.

Thanks and cheers
:wave:
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It's called being a developing nation that used to be borderline stalinist. Chinese is an emerging capitalist country, but it's leadership is still very much communist.
When you have the largest population 1.35 Billion people
you too will be restrictive with peoples rights. Unfortunately we don't quite understand what it means to have that many people living in our country.

Chinese do not think in a western way, they think about things in a Confucian way. The leader is absolute and to serve him and co-operate with your fellow country men is to bring harmony.
The leader is by our standards fits the totalitarian model.

Quote from Confucious:

"The Master said, 'Guide them by edicts, keep them in line with punishments, and the common people will stay out of trouble but will have no sense of shame. Guide them by virtue, keep them in line with the rites, and they will, besides having a sense of shame, reform themselves.
(Analects II, 3)


This sums up Chinese rule nicely. it also explains to a limited extent other Asian countries rules, or past rules.

We as westerners find this "wrong, unjust..blah blah....." just as a lot of Chinese find our system lacking in morality and respect and self discipline.

Criticism goes both ways here.
 
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