norinco pistols

Unregistered said:
I have the NP-34 Sig P228 copy. It has its advantages and disadvantages. Thanks to the Sig design it is light, and easy to strip and clean. It is also reliable and feeds anything. Recoil is a bit jumpy but far from punishing and the sights tend to reset themselves.

BUT. The sights suck. You can't aim precisely with them. I find they are great for minute of silhouette target at 10-25 yards. I can hit 9 or even 10/10 repeatedly. I can only get good groups at extreme close range below 10 yards. DA trigger is horrible, though SA trigger is good. Hammer is a bit stiff. Some people hate the grips - I liked them until a screw worked itself loose.

In short, the NP-34 is really fun but lacking in the accuracy department (the horrible things I did to its barrel as a cleaning novice may have something to do with that though). Also, I hear that the NP-34 will break down (parts wear or fail) more easily than other pistols, and has nothing on the real Sig in terms of robustness. However, I have found it perfect for teaching newbies to enjoy shooting, as everyone loves it and it is hard to put down.

To put it another way, the Norinco 1911A1 is a firearm I would consider spending more money on to make it better. I would not do the same, or at least as much, for the NP-34. I also have a Norinco Tokarev but it is kinda boring and plain vanilla, at least for me. Lotsa fire and recoil though, for those who like that sort of thing. No frills, no fancy sight, though, etc...
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How did you clean your barrel?
 
I cleaned from the muzzle end with a steel pistol rod. In fact, I sometimes first used a bronze bore brush, from the muzzle end, without a guide. This was a result of me using obsolete instructions (for an old .22 rifle on a 20 year old cleaning kit) for the cleaning process.

Today, I strip my and clean my pistol barrels from the breech or use a boresnake. The SIG is easy to field strip - REALLY easy - so it's not even a chore. I clean it properly for good practice now more than anything. The barrel is blueish near the muzzle and is kinda scratchy. Haven't taken a look at it in a while. As far as accuracy is concerned, the fat blocky sights don't help a lot either.

I should mention that as an experiment I left the NP-34 uncleaned for weeks between range sessions and it still functioned properly and didn't rust up. But when I do clean, I use solvent less frequently and more carefully than I did before. Improper cleaning has caused more damage and wear than firing hundreds of rounds out of the thing.
 
NP-34's are alright, but the sights require adjustment or replacement once you get them.

Additionally, you may want to look at replacing the grips as the ones that come from Norinco are crap.
 
I have two NP-22s as my primary (and backup) IPSC guns, and I'm very happy with them. I did do a bit of filing to the sights, to widen the gap in the rear sight,and to sight the gun in for my ammo, but it's all good now (that's all my preferences, not anything wrong with the gun).

I've had zero technical issues which I cannot attribute to ammo or user error.

I hear it's hit and miss with the Norincos, but I got both of them from the same source and both are great, now that they are worked in and all.
 
Lineman said:
The compnay was very helpful in getting the NP40 returned and an NP22 being issued in its place. In defence of the NP line, it may have just been one bad gun. There are a lot of them on the market so your bound to have one dud. Much like ammo, some are squibs. :cry: I am getting a new gun, eventualy, so I am ok with the whole thing.

I hope this is enough detail.
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The problem is that there is more than one dud - a big bunch of them actually :twisted:
 
I'm seriously considering a new NP-30. (1911 Double Stack in .45, if you don't wanna look it up.) How upgradeable is this one? Will all or most of the Wilson Combat stuff fit it ok, or will I have to get it installed professionally? I'm not sure what accessories I'll get, but it's very likely I'll get a new barrel for it at some point.
Thanks for your help.
 
Chavez,

Since you might want a barrel in the futur for a NP 30, you should do a little more reseach to find out if this is a standard unramped barrel or use like all the other 1911 widebody, some form of ramped barrel/frame cut.
There is two standards : Wilson/Nowlin ramp and Clark/Para ramp.

The NP 30 might have a different barrel set up than those described here and a different frame cut than those american standard. If this is the case, you might not be able to obtain easily a match or improved barrel for your gun.

For the remaining, I stand along Deckard for once..and agree with him. !! :wink:
 
Just a minute !!!! Wilson or any other company do not have to produce parts for out of wack weirdo pistol like this Norinco double stack affair. For one time, Norinco try to do something of their own, and since they copy anything, they could have chosen a standard barrel ramp configuration.

You could have buy any other 1911 than this NP 30 and would have parts that fit. If you make a poor choice when you spend your money, do not blame the others.

Bottom line, the NP30 is the wrong choice of gun. Period.



:evil:
 
Brigade Leader Janeau

Janeau said:
Bottom line, the NP30 is the wrong choice of gun. Period.
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I nominate Janeau for Anti-Norinco Brigade Leader. There is also a soupcon of Nimrod in the "case closed" tone of his reply. Janeau is going places :)
 
Norinco M77B (9 mm luger) is very relible, not fancy but surprisingly well made. This is the one used by Chinese police. You can rack the slide back by pulling on the trigger guard if you have a very strong index finger. Bad things: the trigger has sharp serrations which cut into the finger, and also after a while the grips cracked next to the screws holding them in place.
Ramrod
 
RAMROD said:
Norinco M77B (9 mm luger) is very relible, not fancy but surprisingly well made. This is the one used by Chinese police. You can rack the slide back by pulling on the trigger guard if you have a very strong index finger. Bad things: the trigger has sharp serrations which cut into the finger, and also after a while the grips cracked next to the screws holding them in place.
Ramrod
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Been thinking about getting one of these for a plinker.
 
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