North Eastern Arms?

Thanks for the honest assessment of the core. All in all I've heard mostly positive reviews. I will have to make a call to NEA tomorrow and see what their price is, but I'm leaning heavily towards a norc and a lower parts kit (rock river arms maybe?). I will continue to drool over all your more expensive models however :p
the NEA rifles are under $1200 (taxes in) or $1003.00 pretax. considering all the accessories you will want to purchase and equip on your a Norinco (NEA is already equipped with), you will probably come in a bit lower on the NEA.
 
I bought one of the first ones released. I had cycling issues that they adressed immediately with a new upper, and some extras. I'm happy with my rifle, and the service I've received.

I haven't spent as much time shooting it as I would like, but it's coming. :)
 
the NEA rifles are under $1200 (taxes in) or $1003.00 pretax. considering all the accessories you will want to purchase and equip on your a Norinco (NEA is already equipped with), you will probably come in a bit lower on the NEA.

how do you get away with that big a sig pic, fuk i paid for more and am not allowed to have one that big.
 
Thanks for the honest assessment of the core. All in all I've heard mostly positive reviews. I will have to make a call to NEA tomorrow and see what their price is, but I'm leaning heavily towards a norc and a lower parts kit (rock river arms maybe?). I will continue to drool over all your more expensive models however :p

Why would you replace the parts in the lower with more expensive, yet identical, parts from RRA? The Norc parts are fine. Why is that people feel replacing standard chinese parts with standard US parts is somehow an upgrade?
 
Thanks for the honest assessment of the core. All in all I've heard mostly positive reviews. I will have to make a call to NEA tomorrow and see what their price is, but I'm leaning heavily towards a norc and a lower parts kit (rock river arms maybe?). I will continue to drool over all your more expensive models however :p

no problem i had heard good things about the Core Rifles as well that is why i got one but the Rifle i recived i was not impresed with the quality.

maybe it was the particuler rifle i got but still not the best for the money i would go with the NEA.
 
I wouldn't go with an NEA as a first choice strictly due to customer support issues I've experienced.
Noob, heh. I don't want to go into details outside of PM's with NEA. I'm just voicing my opinion.

Ok, to be fair here & to set the record straight here.. this is the poor customer service he is speaking of.

You ordered a Troy BUIS set from us. It contained a H&K front sight instead of a M4 style. By the time you contacted us we were out of stock on the sights. We acknowledged the mistake and offered to make it right. Rather than cancel your order completely we offered to let you keep and use the sights you had and when Troy restocked us we would send you the replacement with paid return shipping for the incorrect one so you didn't have to go without sights completely while you waited. We haven't received them yet from Troy. If there's something more we could have done to make you happy then please tell me, because I know of no one else that would have made you an offer like that. Is this the customer service issue you mention above? We take pride in the fact that we have a no BS warranty and customer service program. If you're still unhappy then send them back for a full refund.



Stag. I like my mil-specs to be acheived.

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So what you're saying is that you want your rifle to be a cookie cutter copy of another rifle right down to the minutest detail whether it's the best component/process available because a foreign government says it's will then meet the minimum acceptable standard for service? Ok. ;)

If you're looking for a completely Mil-Spec rifle there are a lot of great quality options. However ours do not meet the milspec. In fact many of the components and process we use are well above the requirement. Mil-Std is great if you're feeding the US war machine.. its a standard not required by anyone else.
 
So what you're saying is that you want your rifle to be a cookie cutter copy of another rifle right down to the minutest detail whether it's the best component/process available because a foreign government says it's will then meet the minimum acceptable standard for service? Ok.

Hey awesome. My Norc is not milspec....maybe it is better? Wahooooo Laugh2
 
Why would you replace the parts in the lower with more expensive, yet identical, parts from RRA? The Norc parts are fine. Why is that people feel replacing standard chinese parts with standard US parts is somehow an upgrade?

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Replace all the parts you want, it will still be a Norc. They work, the go bang every time. Changing out the lower receiver parts isn't going to improve on this. If you are that concerned about a Norc being crap, pony up the dough for a NA brand name from the get go.
 
Hey awesome. My Norc is not milspec....maybe it is better? Wahooooo Laugh2

There's a big difference between "meeting milspec", "Exceeding milspec". In the eyes of the US MIL, below grade or above grade is still not on the line. It's a rule, not a guideline.

I believe the Norc is neither on all counts. Does it mean it won't go bang and put a hole in what you're pointing at? Nope. Will the finish wear off and the parts break down sooner? Probably. But if you don't shoot enough to see it, or care how it looks then you'll likely not care. Most people around here don't shoot enough to even wear out a Norc. Personally I don't care much for them. i know a lot of people that do shoot them though.. and even a few that shoot very well with them. One thing I do like about them is that they have got a sh!t load of people into the AR game that couldn't afford to before. And how can that be a bad thing?

If it goes bang and does what you want, then it is doing what it's supposed to.
 
No, you are slagging off a company without offering any kind of proof or even an accusation.

With what Dave posted, and provided he is the straight-shooter we all know him to be (plus being a Patricia after all! :D ), the 'poor customer support' claim holds about as much water as this:

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However ours do not meet the milspec. In fact many of the components and process we use are well above the requirement. Mil-Std is great if you're feeding the US war machine.. its a standard not required by anyone else.
Put out a rifle without a commercial RE and I'll agree with you.
 
There's a big difference between "meeting milspec", "Exceeding milspec". In the eyes of the US MIL, below grade or above grade is still not on the line. It's a rule, not a guideline.

I believe the Norc is neither on all counts. Does it mean it won't go bang and put a hole in what you're pointing at? Nope. Will the finish wear off and the parts break down sooner? Probably. But if you don't shoot enough to see it, or care how it looks then you'll likely not care. Most people around here don't shoot enough to even wear out a Norc. Personally I don't care much for them. i know a lot of people that do shoot them though.. and even a few that shoot very well with them. One thing I do like about them is that they have got a sh!t load of people into the AR game that couldn't afford to before. And how can that be a bad thing?

If it goes bang and does what you want, then it is doing what it's supposed to.

I agree. If I didn't already have my Norc I would be pushing toward the better NEA product for sure. NEA would be an upgrade but for the small amount of abuse and wear I put on my rifle, I am not likely to ever see the difference. Looking forward to seeing some of your rifles in the flesh this season though.
 
There's a big difference between "meeting milspec", "Exceeding milspec". In the eyes of the US MIL, below grade or above grade is still not on the line. It's a rule, not a guideline.

I believe the Norc is neither on all counts. Does it mean it won't go bang and put a hole in what you're pointing at? Nope. Will the finish wear off and the parts break down sooner? Probably. But if you don't shoot enough to see it, or care how it looks then you'll likely not care. Most people around here don't shoot enough to even wear out a Norc. Personally I don't care much for them. i know a lot of people that do shoot them though.. and even a few that shoot very well with them. One thing I do like about them is that they have got a sh!t load of people into the AR game that couldn't afford to before. And how can that be a bad thing?

If it goes bang and does what you want, then it is doing what it's supposed to.

This exactly
 
"Proven" or "Achieved" is something NEA is not disclosing, which is totally up to them.

Battle Proven, or Greatness Achieved?

What NEA does not disclose by what Im talking of, is where the NEA-15's are being used, deployed, and who they are in the service of protecting.

Like I said, I was able to have a few conversations with NEA. I know of some of the NEA names, their reputation in the market, what they did previously, and their names are rock solid.

I know where these rifles are being used now. I know what they are doing. And the fact I can get a civilian model from a Canadian company, headed by some guys who have a good name in the industry, that is a plus for me.

Yes, I want a Stag, Spikes, LMT, etc. I will have them in time.

The NEA platforms are doing some cool-ass #### in real world scenarios. If NEA wants to be modest and not play on that, good on them.


And if in time mine breaks, Ill drive it up to their office, dump it on their desk and say "Fix it, and give me the Troy Sights I wanted!".
 
I have to laugh as a machinist when I hear the term "Mil-Spec". When you work in the industry and with different tolerances you realize that mil-spec translates loosely into "the bare minimum".

And yes, I worked with a fab company that had numerous military contracts. Just because it says "Mil-Spec" doesn't mean it's worth $2000.

Just food for thought.

I was leaning heavily towards a Norinco because of my very tight budget, but after all these stories of "NEA customer service" I'm now thinking that I can wait a little longer to get into AR's and save for an NEA-15.
 
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