I would settle for having purchased 10k more AA skeet loads at $12 per box, that was only around 5 years ago. The price was over $14, but Winchester had a $2 US rebate per box.
Nutty 410 ammo costs here to stay?
- Thread starter .22LRGUY
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As long as people keep paying it, they'll keep charging it.
When demand drops, so do prices. Part of the problem though is supply - everyone's worried they're never going to see a box of 410 shells again, so they buy everything in sight.
Everything's sooooo pricey now.
I just bought a few boxes of mini shells for my 12ga. Cabelas had them on sale, $15 for a box of 20. 5/8oz of #7.5 shot, I figure through a full or turkey choke it should be good for getting the kiddos their first grouse.
I was going to buy a 410 for the kids, but once I saw the half-price mini shells I decided to try this route first.
I was going to buy a 410 for the kids, but once I saw the half-price mini shells I decided to try this route first.
I did Walmart here went out of that kind of thing here and bought all their 410 and 12ga for 5 bucks a box the guys working there thought I was getting ready for a war.
Licensed to kill
CGN Regular
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- Peace Country Alberta
Having shot muzzleloading shotguns from 8Ga to 20GA, all cylinder bored of course, I can tell you the the SIZE of the pattern at a given distance is the same regardless of bore size. The difference is that the bigger bite has a denser pattern (of course) than the smaller bore. I believe this is why smaller bore shotguns (.410) typically have a tighter choke than bigger bore guns. Example, if a 12Ga has 400 pellets in a 1oz load and a .410 200 pellets of the same size and given that they will both spread those pellets over the same……say, 40” pattern, in order to get a similar density, the smaller bore requires a choke to put those pellets into a smaller circle. Bottom line is that a full choked .410 may provide a similar pattern density as an improved cylinder or modified choke 12Ga but you need to be “on” with the .410 since you don’t have the width of pattern to make up for poor shot placement.
No there not here to stay. Might be a year or 2 before they come down again or maybe they'll stop making it commercially altogether when all the rubes have stopped buying it.
People are making all types of dumb excuses why but at the end of the day it's because everyone has a 410 and they still want to shoot them and will pay a ridiculous price for it so they keep selling it at ridiculous prices.
People are making all types of dumb excuses why but at the end of the day it's because everyone has a 410 and they still want to shoot them and will pay a ridiculous price for it so they keep selling it at ridiculous prices.
Licensed to kill
CGN Regular
- Location
- Peace Country Alberta
Read this post a couple times and am still unsure what is actually being said/suggested. On one hand it is suggested that people buying at the current prices are “rubes” with “ dumb excuses” and yet, previous to these claims it is acknowledged that if people just quit buying, the manufacturers may just stop producing .410 ammo altogether. So, who ARE the “rubes” with “ dumb excuses”, those willing to pay to enjoy their .410’s, or the ones willing to risk losing .410 ammo production/availability all together by refusing to pay the current price ??
Supply and demand... what's it worth to buyers? I like rabbit/grouse hunting with a 410 because for me, I am really taking the dog for a long walk (often 6+ hours) carrying a firearm, and I want a fairly light gun. I used to carry my 12g pump shotgun. After realizing I might take only a couple shots at rabbits, I started carrying my 20g pump shotgun. That starts to feel heavy after a few hours so currently I carry my pump 410. Shooting only a few rounds per trip, a box lasts me over a year. I can afford a $35 box of 410 per year.
I also deer hunt with a rifled shotgun. 12g Hornady SST slugs are almost $6 per shot, tax in. I recently replaced the scope on my shotgun (was 3-9, now 2-7). I went through about 3 boxes of shells to get sighted in (lesson learned - my gun is a 50-75 yard gun, NOT a 100 yard gun). So almost $100 to prepare for deer season where I may take 1 or 2 shots during the week. But 100% worth it to me, as that is my vacation and I really enjoy deer camp and the chance to fill my freezer.
YMMV
I also deer hunt with a rifled shotgun. 12g Hornady SST slugs are almost $6 per shot, tax in. I recently replaced the scope on my shotgun (was 3-9, now 2-7). I went through about 3 boxes of shells to get sighted in (lesson learned - my gun is a 50-75 yard gun, NOT a 100 yard gun). So almost $100 to prepare for deer season where I may take 1 or 2 shots during the week. But 100% worth it to me, as that is my vacation and I really enjoy deer camp and the chance to fill my freezer.
YMMV
All I can say at this point in time is that 410 through a 12ga w/adapter does NOT pattern worth ####. I'll try to remember to update this thread after I pattern the mini shells.
Don't forget a US election on the horizon too, I expect the panic buying to start any time now if it hasn't already...
antiqueguy
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- windsor ontario
.410 was around $30 a box before Covid.
Reloading is nice with .410 you can reload it cheaper then 12ga or 20ga you use less shot less powder I can reload a box for less then $10.
Reloading is nice with .410 you can reload it cheaper then 12ga or 20ga you use less shot less powder I can reload a box for less then $10.
antiqueguy
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- windsor ontario
You can buy used(used 600 should only be about $50-$70) and switch dies if it’s not in .410. Or theirs a guy on eBay selling a kit to use with a lee load all for .410 and 28ga.
Jack Robinson
CGN Regular
- Location
- Alberta / Mazatlan
I am very fortunate that I have everything I need in the way of ammo and reloading stuff. When people tell me the prices of they have to pay I just about lose my lunch!
If you don't use a lot, you may never have to purchase more components, but when you use thousands every year, that isn't realistic.I am very fortunate that I have everything I need in the way of ammo and reloading stuff. When people tell me the prices of they have to pay I just about lose my lunch!
